Dyno Results!!!

Cheysdaddy · Oct 9, 2005

Just got my car dyno'd Sat and pulled in a 208.9 hp @ 5250 RPM and 219.1 lbs of torque @ 3750 and a 14.3 1/4 mile[]
I have 2005 Mustang GT cat back duals which I got about 6-8 hp from but the big gain came from my CAI from Tunable Induction and an XCal tune from Blow by Racing. Tha new cold air looks and works great and TI has a great product and price. Here's some images of my original Dyno and my new dyno Sat (thanks to Greg @ Auto Specialty in Lafayette In) plus a pic of the system on my car. PM me if you have any questions

Cheysdaddy · Oct 9, 2005

Sorry I had to do 2 posts

Hammy · Oct 10, 2005

Nice! Looks good, glad to hear about the performance improvements.

Were the "before and after" dyno runs done on different days/dynos?

How much did you you pay for the CAI?

How much did the tunes cost?

Fourth Horseman · Oct 10, 2005

Results like this are making me lean more and more toward getting a v6. The cheaper insurance would pay for some nice mods like this. 14.3 in the quarter with just a tune, CAI and cat back exhaust is impressive. Well done!

Hammy · Oct 10, 2005

Fourth Horseman said:
Results like this are making me lean more and more toward getting a v6. The cheaper insurance would pay for some nice mods like this. 14.3 in the quarter with just a tune, CAI and cat back exhaust is impressive. Well done!

Isn't that a "virtual" 1/4 mile? Meaning, done on the dyno---not sure how realistic those are...???

J DeMolet · Oct 10, 2005

The results were on different days and dynos.

I'm deducting 17 rwhp to account for this variable along with the exhaust mod.

This way the gains are REALISTIC, not advertising hype.

You could get +32 rwhp for the system / tune deducting 8 rwhp for the exhaust. I'll deduct another 7 rwhp for different dyno, gas quality, etc. variables.

I'll relate that customers can expect +25 rwhp increases (CAI w/ tune) and as more dyno feedback is received it will be correlated for gain consistencies coinciding with these variables.

There is NO check engine light with this tune. I'm checking on permission / availability as the tune can be quickly uploaded onto the Xcals already in service.

My thanks to Troy for his time and feedback in testing and the final fitment adjustments.

And my compliments to Troy on such a GEORGEOUS Mustang!!

Hammy · Oct 10, 2005

Thanks for the additional info.

I guess my science background says that the best control would have been to run the car stock again on the same dyno, same day, same tune with factory air box, and then slap on the CAI + tune adjusted for only the CAI. Then you can say precisely what the CAI gains you. Otherwise, there are too many variables in the experiment (which this was, really...)

And of course, run each 10 times, get the mean, and do standard errors/etc.

Anyhow, the CAI looks really nice and I trust it gives the car a good boost.

shooterm1 · Oct 10, 2005

Who's CAI unit?

J DeMolet · Oct 10, 2005

The upcoming SCT tune will be stock / stock w CAI /tune same day, dyno and I'll relate these gains also.

These and other forthcoming results will establish a credittable baseline.

But 208.9 rwhp on a Mustang dynomometer with keeping the cats and tune/CAI is still 208.9 !!

You can go with a system that doesn't throw a check engine light with less airflow but in the long run with upcoming mods the end results won't be the same.

Hammy · Oct 10, 2005

J DeMolet said:
The upcoming SCT tune will be stock / stock w CAI /tune same day, dyno and I'll relate these gains also.

These and other forthcoming results will establish a credittable baseline.

But 208.9 rwhp on a Mustang dynomometer with keeping the cats and tune/CAI is still 208.9 !!

You can go with a system that doesn't throw a check engine light with less airflow but in the long run with upcoming mods the end results won't be the same.

Ah, very good info! And yes, the end product is a good number indeed-- (and the extra same day runs are certain to help satisfy the scientists that see the data )

Fourth Horseman · Oct 10, 2005

Hammy said:
Isn't that a "virtual" 1/4 mile? Meaning, done on the dyno---not sure how realistic those are...???

Yeah, I'm going on some faith with that. But still, good numbers for the HP and torque.
Do you plan on taking it to the track for some real world times, Cheysdaddy?

scrming · Oct 10, 2005

I'm thinking the 14.3 is ummmm... very optimistic... Based on my observations and others those type of mods and numbers are going to put the car in the upper 14's... 14.7 to 14.9 range... not the lower 14's.... Only way to tell for sure of course it take it to the track... LOL

l.groves · Oct 10, 2005

What kind of difference did you feel with the mods. Today was my first test drive of the v6 and it didn't seem to have anything for the top end. Did these mods help?

Cheysdaddy · Oct 10, 2005

More lower to mid range (good for racing ) but yes some top end range too

Cheysdaddy · Oct 10, 2005

Fourth Horseman said:
Yeah, I'm going on some faith with that. But still, good numbers for the HP and torque.
Do you plan on taking it to the track for some real world times, Cheysdaddy?

i would like to but with my work schedule and kids we'll have to see if I can actually get the time

l.groves · Oct 10, 2005

I noticed that off the line it did have some really good torque. I guess different cams would be in order to really let it breathe.

J DeMolet · Oct 11, 2005

'Off the line' was one aspect that concerned me with having to go with an underhood system compared to my old inner-fender setups. The old style systems had 'instantaneously' better throttle response with the filter 'down' in the inner fender, and the engine heat above the filter. The filter was cold and the resultant induction charge wasn't preheated when you dumped it out of the hole.

But with the materials I'm using and just the idle airflow coming through the system it's going to stay cool and should still translate to much better throttle response.

Plastics aren't created equal, and I wanted to give the system an edge over the other plastic ones that are much thinner, injected mold TB pipes. The thickness (more than 1/4" with the carbon fiber) is going to translate to keeping the intake charge as cool as possible. The dual-cone GT filter is going to breathe 360 degrees, unrestricted, as compared to being in an airbox.

Hammy · Oct 11, 2005

J DeMolet said:
'Off the line' was one aspect that concerned me with having to go with an underhood system compared to my old inner-fender setups. The old style systems had 'instantaneously' better throttle response with the filter 'down' in the inner fender, and the engine heat above the filter. The filter was cold and the resultant intake charge wasn't preheated when you dumped it out of the hole.

But with the materials I'm using and just the idle airflow coming through the system it's going to stay cool and should still translate to much better throttle response.

Plastics aren't created equal, and I wanted to give the system an edge over the other plastic ones that are much thinner, injected mold TB pipes. The thickness (more than 1/4" with the carbon fiber) is going to translate to keeping the intake charge as cool as possible. The dual-cone GT filter is going to breathe 360 degrees, unrestricted, as compared to being in an airbox.

This is good info. I thought the pictures of your other units looked "tucked" into the fender.

Question--do the Xcal2 units with logging software (via laptop) allow the monitoring of intake air temps?? Got mine recently, but haven't had the chance to play with these functions-----yet Anyhow, would be neat if we (end users) can actually measure params. like this.

Sadly, it seems like the SCT software is rather "dead" until you actually plug into the car. This makes it tough to explore the software in the comfort of home (or work )

scrming · Oct 11, 2005

Hammy said:
This is good info. I thought the pictures of your other units looked "tucked" into the fender.

Question--do the Xcal2 units with logging software (via laptop) allow the monitoring of intake air temps?? Got mine recently, but haven't had the chance to play with these functions-----yet Anyhow, would be neat if we (end users) can actually measure params. like this.

Sadly, it seems like the SCT software is rather "dead" until you actually plug into the car. This makes it tough to explore the software in the comfort of home (or work )

Yep, you can do datalogging with the X-cal2 and your laptop... And yes you can check the air temps

Hammy · Oct 11, 2005

scrming said:
Yep, you can do datalogging with the X-cal2 and your laptop... And yes you can check the air temps

Hey scrming---do you have to manually select params when you start the logging? Or does it, by default, select the more useful params to monitor?

Thanks.

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