Dyno tune results

GRGT1994

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I expected a bit more since you had it professionally tuned at AFM with a PMS. Did they give you any suggestions? The timing and fuel curves look good. Your timing curve is similar to mine.

It is a blower cam but I thought it'd make more. Did you open up the small BBK collector? It necks down to near 2.25".

Since you have 4.10 gears, swapping to a track heat manifold would help up top.
 
Maybe nix the cats and add a higher duration cam, and you should break the 300 mark. But still, it looks good for the combo and should do well at the track.

Nice to see it put down that kind of power huh?
 
It feels great, SOTP improvement is noticable. We didn't capture a baseline before the PMS, so no measured comparison. But looking at what I pulled on a few runs with my Gtech, I went from a best 0 to 60 before of about 5.1 seconds down to 4.8. And the 5.1 before was kindof a freek run (maybe I caught the wind or was on a downhill?). My typical strong run to 60 before was about 5.5.

I didn't think high flow cats would make much difference. But the curve does look pretty flat at the top. That might be desirable in a street car, but it also might confirm what you guys suggested above (delete the cats and switch to a track heat upper).

I don't really want the volume of a cat-less mid pipe. Any way to lose the cats but quiet it down (other than turbos :D )? Any other suggestions to put the peak on my power curve?
 
GRGT1994 said:
It feels great, SOTP improvement is noticable. We didn't capture a baseline before the PMS, so no measured comparison. But looking at what I pulled on a few runs with my Gtech, I went from a best 0 to 60 before of about 5.1 seconds down to 4.8. And the 5.1 before was kindof a freek run (maybe I caught the wind or was on a downhill?). My typical strong run to 60 before was about 5.5.

I didn't think high flow cats would make much difference. But the curve does look pretty flat at the top. That might be desirable in a street car, but it also might confirm what you guys suggested above (delete the cats and switch to a track heat upper).

I don't really want the volume of a cat-less mid pipe. Any way to lose the cats but quiet it down (other than turbos :D )? Any other suggestions to put the peak on my power curve?


On the big end, I'd be willing to bet moving to the track heat upper will give you more gain than going to an off road pipe.

My guess would be the cats would sap between 5 to 10 rwhp and I think you would be closer to 5 than 10. I've seen some say for a na stock block combo, the loss from high flow cats could be as little as 3rwhp :shrug:

Did you try a bit fatter ratio :shrug:

I picked up power moving from 13.0 to 12.5 :)

How much total spark advance :shrug:

At what rpm is it all in at :shrug:
 
Grady, if you look at the graph you'll see it says "+10 +10 +8 +8". Thats the timing curve added in to the PMS. Assumming he has stand alone ON (it only comes on at 4000 rpm in pre 04 PMS's) that means his WOT timing is 35* total from 4000 and up until it hits 6000, its 33* total. In standalone the PMS sets the total timing to 25* + what you add in.

His curve in the PMS would be 2200 +10, 4000 +10, 6000 +8, 7800 +8
 
Grn92LX said:
Grady, if you look at the graph you'll see it says "+10 +10 +8 +8". Thats the timing curve added in to the PMS. Assumming he has stand alone ON (it only comes on at 4000 rpm in pre 04 PMS's) that means his WOT timing is 35* total from 4000 and up until it hits 6000, its 33* total. In standalone the PMS sets the total timing to 25* + what you add in.

His curve in the PMS would be 2200 +10, 4000 +10, 6000 +8, 7800 +8
Thx for the clarification. That is all way over my head. Part of the reason I went to AFM to have someone else tune. Looks like I need to start doing some read'n and learn'n on all this stuff.

Hey, can I just pick up the Track Heat upper for my current lower, or do I need the whole $400+ set?
 
GRGT1994 said:
yes

Question: What might the trade off be (if any) by changing to a Track Heat upper?

Your power band will shift up. The car will want to rev a little higher, but with a 4.10 screw that won't be an issue. Notice how your HP starts to die around 5500? Now it will start to die around 6500. Torque loss will be negligible compared to gains in HP.

It's a good middle of the road intake.... shorter runners for the track but not tooo short where you limit rpms.

Depending on how high you spin the motor, make sure your valve springs are up to snuff. Not sure about the TW stuff.

Adam
 
Black95GTS said:
Your power band will shift up. The car will want to rev a little higher, but with a 4.10 screw that won't be an issue.

Adam






Grn92LX said:
Since you have 4.10 gears, swapping to a track heat manifold would help up top.







Saw something here and had a question. I see both of you mention he has a 4:10 gear ,but the dyno sheet shows a 3:73. Wouldn't this make a difference on the actual HP/TQ numbers? I dont have any experience with dyno's but I'm getting ready to put mine on one for a tune, and common sense tells me it would give an incorrect reading:shrug: