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E85 ethanol fuel?

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  • Start date Start date Aug 21, 2005

1994Vib.RedGT

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I have started to notice that some stations are beginning to carry E85 ethanol fuel which are supposedly for the flexible fuel vehicles, this E85 fuel is a little cheaper than regular gas and is 105 octane, my question is would this fuel run in our cars or would it screw something up?
 

AznStanger3v

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use your common sense on this one
 

Mustangless

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http://www.e85fuel.com/information/ford.php
 
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Touring23

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Hhhhmmmm, this is interesting:
1 U.S. Gallon of gasoline contains 114,132 btu
E85 = 83,263 btu/gal
In an arithmetic sense, 1 volumetric gallon of E85 represents 73% of the btu value of gasoline.
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Taken from the link provided above:
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SeventyMach1

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I've never heard of anyone trying to convert to E85. To run this stuff, I would think you'd have to change EVERYTHING in the feul system, as it is pretty corrosive. I know the FFV's have special injectors for E85. I'm talkin' all the fuel lines, fuel pump, fuel tank ..... everything. Maybe in the long run, you'd save $$, though. The way oil prices are going, it seems like soon, mopeds will cost as much as a new car because of their economy.
 

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I work at a Chevrolet dealership and some of the Impalas and Tahoes we get in are flex fuel. They have a fuel guide in them and gasoline gets over 100-200 miles more per tank than with E85..
 

S/CBlack95GT

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Your car would run horribly on it. E85 is much less volatile and it would make an untuned engine a dog.
 

SeventyMach1

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ES Stangin said:
I work at a Chevrolet dealership and some of the Impalas and Tahoes we get in are flex fuel. They have a fuel guide in them and gasoline gets over 100-200 miles more per tank than with E85..
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They're getting more common.... Ranger's, Escape's, Taurus's....

I used to drive a Gov. van (Dodge Caravan) that was a FFV.... and now Chevy is into it.
 

V8302stangs

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I'm interested in Ethanol, nobody sells E85 out here in CA tho most sell E10. Maybe some day I could open a gas station that sells E85 and converts vehicles.
 
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SeventyMach1 said:
I've never heard of anyone trying to convert to E85. To run this stuff, I would think you'd have to change EVERYTHING in the feul system, as it is pretty corrosive. I know the FFV's have special injectors for E85. I'm talkin' all the fuel lines, fuel pump, fuel tank ..... everything.
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From what I understand, this is right on...

FFV vehicles come with stainless tanks, and they do require larger injectors. So stock 19's would need like 30's. I believe that FFV vehicles have fuel sensors to measure the alcohol/ethanol content, and computers that adjust to match. Converting to E85 would be tough, and probably not worth it.

Rick
 

V8302stangs

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Maybe not worth it today, but when I got my license back in 99, gas was $.99 a gallon for a brief time there. A three fold increase in five years means that the curren almost $3 a gallon will be $9 in just a few years.
 

Kevin R.

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Hmmm..gas sucks.

How much are gas prices in Canada?
 
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