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  • Start date Start date Dec 13, 2004
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2002BLGT

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Is a single 16 inch fan good enough to cool my car .....I will be installing a thermostat switch , If a single 16 isnt big enough I will probably go with 2 twelves but I will have to upgrade the alternator to provide more electricity , I am just hoping that one 16 will hold me over till later ??? anybody running just one 16 and how much RWHP is the stock fan holding me back ....

mods are as follows Y303 heads , B303 cam ,255lph pump , adj FPR, typhoon intake , 70mmTB and egr , 24lb inj, granatelli 75mm MAF .....
 

ponyboy19

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How many cfm's does it push. if it's 2300+ cfms it probably will work ok. IMO I'd go big right off the bat as price will be about the same. Here is a couple links to my set up if your interested.. there are others that use the Mark VIII fan which moves tons of air too. both are around 150 for the fan.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=524739

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4230992#post4230992
 

PNY PWR

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Just get a Poroform 15", they work great and come w/ everything you need to install it.
 

Michael Yount

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2002 - where are you located? How is the car used? A/C? Auto tranny? It's really hard to answer how much fan it might take -- lots of variables. A stock 5spd notch with big aluminum radiator and no a/c in rural Michigan needs a lot less fan than a modded vert with a/c and automatic/loose stall converter that has to do bumper to bumper in August in Miami. See what I mean? By the way - if what you're thinking of is one of the "$69 Specials" at your local speedshop - you'll probably be sorry. They rarely move enough air. I think you want at least 2700-3000 cfm.

Whatever you get (I recommend either the Lincoln MkViii fan, the Taurus 3.8L fan, the SN94/95 fan, or the SPAL dual 11" fully shrouded unit) control it with this - www.dccontrol.com. Only way to go as far as a controller. Last - we don't know what kind of car you're actually talking about (might want to consider creating a signature), but if it's a fox body, and has the stock 65A alternator - you're gonna need to upgrade the alternator. At least 95A, most folks go with a 130A.
 

stealthracing

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a decent elec fan is the black magic from flex-a-lite. its a single 16inch i think.. it pulls upper 2000's cfm. works good, used it on the street with no problems, is great at the track to wire it to an on-off switch to let it run between rounds. install was simple too.
 

Black Sun 5.0

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I agree with Michael Yount, buy the Delta Current control. I'm running one with my S/N95 fan. Easy hookup, even for a non-electrical peson like myself. You don't have to deal with switches, relays, etc. It really works.
 

ONEBADPNY

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black sun 5.0 which kit did you buy for your sn95 fan? i need to buy one but not sure which one i need. 35amp or 65 amp?
 

mustangdaren

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I had a permacool 16 inch fan on mine. It fit inside the factory shroud and cooled the car fine. My friend runs the same fan but a 15 in and it keeps his car cool. I have the 16 almost new in the box with a themostat if you are interested. I ended up switching fans when I got my griffin radiator to a dual unit mainly for looks so I could get rid of the factory fan shroud since it was not wide enough to cover the radiator completely.
 

Michael Yount

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onebadpony - If you don't know which one to pick, why wouldn't you simply contact Brian Baskin at the website? He's the expert, not us. Ask him to recommend whitch one you need. Most folks can use the lower amperage one unless they've got the MKVIII fan. You can email Brian at support@dccontrol.com
 
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xplo89gt

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quick offtopic...where's a good place to get a mark VIII fan. No good junkyards around here.. ebay? carparts.com? OR is there a good 'cooling' site that sells these fans for a decent price? Thanks.
 
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xplo89gt...there is a guy selling some mark 8 fans on the Corral. I think his name is MAV. I believe he was wanting 80 bucks for 1, which supposedly isnt a bad price. I personally went w/ the dual Ramcharger set-up.
 

Michael Yount

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When it comes to the cooling system, I'm not willing to entertain much risk. If you want fans/controllers that are the best quality try www.dccontrol.com for fans and controllers; www.spal-usa.com for fan (dual 11" fully shrouded).
 
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Yep....and IMHO ridiculously over-priced. Not saying anything about the quality, because they are top-notch....but how much do you want to spend, and how do you want it to operate. A Mark-8 will suffice.
 

Michael Yount

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After putzin' around with these kinds of things for 35 years or so, I've found that much more often than not, you get what you pay for. Related to that, the surest way to spend MORE money than you have to is to not buy quality the first time. And when you buy used, you usually are just guessing and hoping -- which is ok, just as long as you know that when you make the purchase.

Which brings us back to the 2 chief car-building/modding axioms:

There is no substitute for cubic dollars AND it's usually "over priced" only if you can't afford it.

It's almost always cheaper in the long run to get the best parts you can - even if that means waiting a bit and saving for a bit longer.
 

Black Sun 5.0

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I purchased the 65-amp DC control, but a 35-amp will probably suffice. Baskin notified me that a 35 will handle the Mark VIII, so I'm sure it will handle the SN/95. I ordered my DC control before he got back to me on the amp rating. Also, when the SN/95 fan really kicks in under heavy load, the temp drops like a rock. I found that playing around with the temp setting jumpers to find the ideal setting helps. I have mine set now for the 194* setting since it's cold outside and the fan won't have to work so hard. In the summer I'll probably set it to 180* or 187*, depending on how the unit responds with hotter temps outside. I also used a laser temp sensor to locate the hottest part of my radiator to make sure the car stays as cool as possible. Hope some of this info helps.
 

Michael Yount

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Black Sun - if you've got a 180F t'stat, you won't want to set it right at 180F - it can get into a bit of a feedback-fight with the t'stat if the temps are too close. Try 187F - I use that year round with my 180F t'stat. Works like a champ.
 

ONEBADPNY

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thanks guys i read more into the web page and it does state that it can handle the markvlll fan so the 35 will be fine.
 
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