Electrical problem...

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I have 8ga wire with a 40 amp maxi fuse installed between my alternator & battery. The fuse blew this morning ( without me knowing ) , & I pretty much killed the battery driving it to work.

After work I replaced the fuse & thought everything was fine. About five miles down the road the car started missing real bad so I figured the fuse blew again.
( I was right )

My question is - if the battery is not fully charged could that be the culprit with the fuse's? I went through four fuses this afternoon before finally calling it quits. Everytime I reved the motor the fuse would pop. I'm guessing there's to much load with the dead battery. Anyone have any ideas. Thanks...
 
I have 8ga wire with a 40 amp maxi fuse installed between my alternator & battery. The fuse blew this morning ( without me knowing ) , & I pretty much killed the battery driving it to work.

I assume you mean 140amp fuse?

With a 3g, I would think you'd want at least 4ga wire.

Although I don't know for sure, you idea w/ the battery might be correct. I'd pull a battery from a friends car and see if the same thing happens. Do you know what caused the battery to go low to begin with?
 
The state of charge should not have much to do at all with the alt fuse (we do need to clarify the wiring stuff - 8 gauge is what the stock wiring tapers down to IIRC).

One can jump a dead battery and run off the alt alone and not blow the fuse. Remember these are slow-burn fuses. The alternator has tiny spikes, but the slow-burn nature of the fuse keeps them from blowing every time a spike pops up. But a 40 amp fuse sure could burn.

I would look for a loose connection on the power cables from the alt to the battery or solenoid. Esp if you kept the stock wiring hooked up (with a 40 amp fuse) and ran a new cable (ran both in parallel). The new cable might have a poor connection or too much resistance, and the power is taking the lesser path of resistance - the smaller wire.

Good luck.
 
TheUser said:
I assume you mean 140amp fuse?

With a 3g, I would think you'd want at least 4ga wire.

Although I don't know for sure, you idea w/ the battery might be correct. I'd pull a battery from a friends car and see if the same thing happens. Do you know what caused the battery to go low to begin with?

I left the original alternator wires ( x2 yel 10ga ) hooked up to the new alternator. I then installed a separate 8ga. I kind of figured that would keep me from having to run a single 4ga.

The 40 amp fuse has always been sufficient. Occasionally it has blown - but I figured it had to do with starting the car when ALL the accessories were on... So maybe I should " up " the amperage of the fuse? :shrug:
 
HISSIN50 said:
The state of charge should not have much to do at all with the alt fuse (we do need to clarify the wiring stuff - 8 gauge is what the stock wiring tapers down to IIRC).

One can jump a dead battery and run off the alt alone and not blow the fuse. Remember these are slow-burn fuses. The alternator has tiny spikes, but the slow-burn nature of the fuse keeps them from blowing every time a spike pops up. But a 40 amp fuse sure could burn.

I would look for a loose connection on the power cables from the alt to the battery or solenoid. Esp if you kept the stock wiring hooked up (with a 40 amp fuse) and ran a new cable (ran both in parallel). The new cable might have a poor connection or too much resistance, and the power is taking the lesser path of resistance - the smaller wire.

Good luck.

You mentioned a 40 amp fuse could burn... What amp fuse would you recommend?

Far as the connections go - I replaced the alternator today too ( lifetime warranty at Discount Auto :) ), so I'm sure all the connections are clean & tight. I thought I would cover all the bases so I even replaced the ignition cylinder.

You also mentioned the factory wiring going to the IIRC. What & where exactly is that? Also - does the factory wiring have a fuse in line as well?

Thanks...
 
90Qtrhorse said:
You mentioned a 40 amp fuse could burn... What amp fuse would you recommend?

Far as the connections go - I replaced the alternator today too ( lifetime warranty at Discount Auto :) ), so I'm sure all the connections are clean & tight. I thought I would cover all the bases so I even replaced the ignition cylinder.

You also mentioned the factory wiring going to the IIRC. What & where exactly is that? Also - does the factory wiring have a fuse in line as well?

Thanks...
The stock 10 AWG cables taper down to an 8 AWG cable IIRC (If I Recall Correctly). It does have a fusible link on it and is good for ~ 50-55 amps continuous feed, IMHO.

The issue IMHO is all the cables you have run. I would go get a 4 AWG battery cable and an inline fuse and holder (125 amp fuse should work) and ditch all those little wires you have now. I still think you have a bad connection (resistive at a minimum) and so the power is being diverted through the wire with the 40 amp fuse.

For around 20 bucks or less you can redo it and have it be right. I would remove the new cable you added - toss it. Then leave the two stock alternator wires on the solenoid - just disconnect and protect them at the alternator side. Remember - those are still 'hot' cables.

Good luck.