engine build, help needed.

SaleenGT2001

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i will start ordering parts in the next few weeks. the build will be a few months off still but i need to know what i will be needing. i will be geting the pistons first. most likely manley platinum pistons. do they come with rings? and if they are file fit what specs do i need? plans for the car are for a 550-600 street car. it has a blower and possibly nitrous. i will be installing some cams (recomendations?) and LT's when i do the rest. i think the heads will be stock at least for now.

heres what i have

4.6 cast iron block
cobra crank
manley billet i beam rods
cryo oil pump
canton oil pan
arp head studs
arp main bolts
IW 10% od 8 rib crank pulley
8 rib kit

what other parts do i need and what gaskets should i use on the engine? i know i need some good head gaskets since i will be running close to 20 psi boost. does anyone know where to get cometic gaskets? and will the stock oil pick up tube work on the canton pan?

these are the pistons i am thinking about getting
pistons
any other recomendations?

sorry for all the questions.

 

03ghoststang

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• main cap bearings
• windage tray

as far as the head gasket i would suggest the multi layer steel head gaskets the thickness you would have to factor taht in for the C/R you want

 

SaleenGT2001

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what will a windage tray do for me?

 

03ghoststang

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SaleenGT2001 said:

what will a windage tray do for me?

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it helps out on the splash back form the crank hitting the oil in the pan and also frees up HP, also adds some strength to the bottom end

 

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bdcardinal

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consider having all the internals coated with anti friction coatings. all of the racing teams do it and theres power to be had. also cryogenically treating the interanls can help. with those conrods, what bolts are you using? ARP makes ones that are rated to 210,000psi. why are you using main bolts, studs make everything easier. make sure that you get the ARP assembly lube. all of their torque specs require thier lube. also get a bolt stretch gauge for the conrod bolts.

 

SaleenGT2001

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the rods have arp bolts with them.

 

SaleenGT2001

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i think i will use the MLS Cometic gaskets. thats what MPH uses. the are $120 each so they must be some good ****!

 

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SaleenGT2001 said:

i think i will use the MLS Cometic gaskets. thats what MPH uses. the are $120 each so they must be some good ****!

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well cause i am currently building a 306 for my fox body and the gaskets my friend got me are those multi steel ones and they are $160

 

ADRENLN

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i use the cometic gaskets now, they have been good. im oredring them again when i do the block and blower this summer.

 

SaleenGT2001

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as far as headers go, which ones will still give me access to the tranny without dropping the headers? remember i have the T56 so i can pull the bell housing seperate from the rest of the tranny.

 

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what about the SLP LT headers if i remember correctly those give you just enough clearance maybe some else will know because i remember someone mentioning somethign like that about the SLP ones

 

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i dont believe the SLP ones do. the Bassani Mid-Lengths do, and i think the Hooker ones do as well.

 

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go with some VT stage 3 blower cams

 

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I would suggest getting a kit from summit. You can get different rebuild kits depending on how much you need but it will come with all the rings, bearings, gaskets, freeze plugs, etc. That will cover all the little things you might forget.

 

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dude just get VT engines to build you a shortblock.. especially if you're asking what a windage tray is..

 

SaleenGT2001

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i am building my engine. i have built the 302 for my maverick, the 350 in my blazer and MANY more when i was working at my last job. i have never build an engine that will hold the power that i will be putting in my 4.6.


why would i waste the $2500 in parts that i have sitting in my shop right now and order an engine from someone?

from what it sounds like, a windage tray is the same thing as a main stud gridle right?