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65StangBoy

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My car has been down for the past 6 months, so I wanted to show that we actually are making some progress. We are putting in a '91 5.0 with aluminum heads, intake, roller rockers, etc as well as a T5 and a 9in.

<img src="http://members.cox.net/stangboy1965/pictures/car/engine1.jpg">

Here's a fun shot using miscellaneous parts we have sitting around the house (yes I know that the carb does not hook up to the oil pressure sender.)

<img src="http://members.cox.net/stangboy1965/pictures/car/engine2.jpg">

We're just waiting for new pushrods and our cable clutch conversion stuff and it'll be ready to throw in.

P.S. Let me know if the pictures are too big, I can easily resize if necessary.
 

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Nice lookin pics. Post up the specs of ur engine man I wouldnt mind knowin whats in it.
 

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As the great inspector gadget would say: "WOWZERS!!!"

Man thats nice. are you going to use the tunnel ram on the motor, or are u going to use the low rise intake?
 
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65StangBoy

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-'91 5.0 Roller shortblock
-Edelbrock Performer 5.0 Heads, 2.02 intake valves
-Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake
-Holley or Edelbrock 600CFM carb
-Hedman headers
-2 1/4 exhaust to dual chamber flowmasters

Desktop dyno is quoting me 395HP@6000. I dont think there's any way that it will make that much. If it makes 330-350 I'll be extrememly happy.

P.S. Does anyone know if the roller camshafts have an eccentric for a manual fuel pump?
 
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I bet you can see the eccentric from the pumps hole... Or have you allready installed the engine? I have a faint memory they all have.

Looking good.
 
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65StangBoy

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Let me give you the readers digest version. The camshaft that is in the motor DOES have an eccentric. I'm just trying to figure out if the previous owner put an early camshaft in a late engine. I know that the later engines did not use a mechanical fuel pump. So maybe the camshaft DOES have an eccentric but the late model timing cover DOESN'T have a hole for a mechanical fuel pump.

Does anyone else know for sure?
 

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That's nice, I bet you're going to have massive hood clearance issues! That's a nice cat you have in the background also! If you need helpwhen you go to install the engine just give me a PM and i'll come over and help out and give and extra hand!
 
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65StangBoy

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Fortunate for my hood, we aren't going to be using the tunnel ram. I believe that we're going to have to use a serious drop base air cleaner as the air gap is pretty tall as well.
 
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In regards to what 65stangboy said, you can see the mount for the mechanical fuel pump, its the oval hole with the two bolt holes right next to the oil sending unit.
 
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65StangBoy

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Alright, I've been doing some research. Looks like ford kept the fuel pump eccentric on the roller engines up till about '88. The eccentric is a simple bolt on unit that can be put on any SBF. I'm assuming the previous owner of the shortblock just bolted an eccentric onto the stock cam when he was switching over to the early timing cover.
 

12sec67

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65StangBoy said:
-'91 5.0 Roller shortblock
-Edelbrock Performer 5.0 Heads, 2.02 intake valves
-Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake
-Holley or Edelbrock 600CFM carb
-Hedman headers
-2 1/4 exhaust to dual chamber flowmasters

Desktop dyno is quoting me 395HP@6000. I dont think there's any way that it will make that much. If it makes 330-350 I'll be extrememly happy
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did you re-work the heads? cause i thought performer 5.0's came with 1.94/1.60's. i thought 91 engines came with the fuel pump hole closed for an electric fuel pump or did you swap it out for the old cover? if your running 2.02's valves your carb might be too small! also might want to upgrade your exhaust.
also if you have all the serpintine brackets it would be better to make those work and go with an late model water pump because they come aluminum stock!

looks good ... see my sig
 
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How did you manage to stuff 2.02's with that stock pistons?

Did you notch them?

They are said not to work according to edelbrock.

I still prefer the rpm heads over performers.

It's blue ha. hell yeah highperformance blue gaskets.

Kewl keep us posted on how she runs. The next problem will be keeping that T-5 in one piece. I'm thinking your going to resort to using ducktape and JB weld with that motor.
 

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The push rods look a little short.
 
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brianj5600 said:
The push rods look a little short.
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Missing a few bolts also. Nothing major though.
 
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65StangBoy

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12sec67-You can order the Performer 5.0 with either the 1.90 or 2.02 intake. We switched the timing cover over to an old style one so we could use all of our existing accessories. As far as the carb goes we have a bunch of options, unfortunately they're all 600cfms : holley vac. secondaries, holley double pumper, 2 edelbrock vac. secondaries. The exhaust is not set in stone yet, we have a 2 1/2in x pipe that we may decide to graft in.

Fostang-As soon as we get our pushrods I'm going to check PVC. We're using the stock cam for now so that may help. I have to call Edelbrock anyways so I'll probably see what they have to say. If they won't fit I'll bust out the dremel and probably throw in a cam at the same time since PVC was the only thing holding me back from doing that now. I'm going to take it easy on the T5. This will be my daily driver to school everyday so I'm not going to be racing it-much. I think that as long as I dont powershift it, it should last a decent amount of time.

Thanks for all your comments everyone.
 

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go with the 650 dp after break in!


keep that engine clean!

Rich
 

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Slightly off topic........Oh nooooooo, not that orange oil filter! (Nice set up though)
 
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2nd Mustang said:
Slightly off topic........Oh nooooooo, not that orange oil filter! (Nice set up though)
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I know that was the first thing I thought also... Fram filters SUCK!!!!

I would not run one on anything I ownded.....

Billy
 
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2nd Mustang said:
Slightly off topic........Oh nooooooo, not that orange oil filter! (Nice set up though)
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I was thinking that same thing but didn't say anything I figured I had given enough for one day.

Monitor your oil pressure closely with that oil filter.
 
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65StangBoy

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What filters do you guys suggest. We just threw it on there because it looks better than the dented blue painted one. Our explorer takes the same one so I can just use that one on it.
 
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