Engine Restorer?

ashford · Jan 27, 2004

20w-50 is a baaaaad thing when it gets below 0(started pickup one day and spun main bearing)

Black331Stang · Jan 27, 2004

does that have a sound to it when u do that, ashford??

Are u guys talking abou that stuff thats actually called RESTORE?? silver can , sorta looks like a chocolate shake can? lol...ive heard from people (on here too) that they think it worked, and that it wasnt very thick at all. unles this is different stuff your talking about

ashford · Jan 28, 2004

20w-50 quiets a slightly noisy engine. my pickup made a hell of a noise the morning i started it ( a rolling tumbleing noise along with a midget with a hammer in the crankcase. im assuming its a main bearing, or combination of several others. never heard anything like it before neither has my boss or my dad ) it lessened after a few seconds then went away when it ran for about a minut drove it to work, afterwork i started it it was worse and never quieted down took it to my dads and is sitting there till i get another engine ready to put in it.

MSM0075 · Mar 9, 2004

Well I've tryed the 'Restore' Prodcut on my last oil change, since then I have gone 500 Miles on it and I'm starting to notice a difference in preformance. Right after I change the oil and added 'Restore' my Gas Milage went from 16 to 22! But if you guys say its bad news then I'll stop using it. You guys also say Lucas is the same kind of deal??

whitemustang89 · Mar 9, 2004

RickyB said:
90000 miles........your car is still a virgin

lol im with you on this one. your car hasnt even popped her cherry. hahaha

89roadster · Mar 9, 2004

Anybody ever heard of putting ATF fluid in before an oil change? A guy that I know who rebuilds older engines and I respect says that one of his tricks to keep everything in the engine clean is to dump a cup of ATF in the engine a few hundred miles before changing the oil - it's supposed to break up any build up...but I have to wonder what it does to the seals????

The kind of cars that he works on don't see much action except at antique car shows

MSM0075 · Mar 21, 2004

MSM0075 said:
Well I've tryed the 'Restore' Prodcut on my last oil change, since then I have gone 500 Miles on it and I'm starting to notice a difference in preformance. Right after I change the oil and added 'Restore' my Gas Milage went from 16 to 22! But if you guys say its bad news then I'll stop using it. You guys also say Lucas is the same kind of deal??

I'd like to make a correction about my gas milage going up because of this product. I'm sorry to say it was just a conicidence(SP?)

somersdp · Mar 21, 2004

What about the Lucas Products? Same deal?

TheUser · Mar 22, 2004

89roadster said:
Anybody ever heard of putting ATF fluid in before an oil change? A guy that I know who rebuilds older engines and I respect says that one of his tricks to keep everything in the engine clean is to dump a cup of ATF in the engine a few hundred miles before changing the oil - it's supposed to break up any build up...but I have to wonder what it does to the seals????

The kind of cars that he works on don't see much action except at antique car shows

I've heard tranny oil helps rings seal

HarleyFordFan · Mar 22, 2004

89roadster said:
Anybody ever heard of putting ATF fluid in before an oil change? A guy that I know who rebuilds older engines and I respect says that one of his tricks to keep everything in the engine clean is to dump a cup of ATF in the engine a few hundred miles before changing the oil - it's supposed to break up any build up...but I have to wonder what it does to the seals????

The kind of cars that he works on don't see much action except at antique car shows

i do this with all my cars and it flushes out all the goo and sludge from the pan and gallies. cleans motor real nicely because atf is a mild detergent. i never had a problem doing this. i also do this in my stang. no probs. actually runs better IMHO, But i also use Mobil1 full synthetic 20w50 too.....

Yourfullofit · Nov 6, 2005

Funny

You tell this guy that the Engine restore is like heavy weight oil, and it’s like Vaseline, and it will clog filters and it is snake oil oh, and this comment what (about cross hatching. does it supposedly fill that too. i don’t buy it)
You Dummy the cross "Cross hatching” you refer to is only to seat rings on a new engine and is gone after such ring seating
All the suggestions that you have posted are just hear say (you hear it and just repeated what you hear like it was fact)
The truth is this product probably works in some hi mileage engines that just have normal wear in the cylinder walls and this product contains a package of very fine metals (copper ,silver, lead) and these get rube into the fine scratches in the cylinders wall and therefore improve the seal. And yes this product will be sacrificial in other words you have to use it every oil change to keep the benefit. It is a band aid that will help improve the engine performance until you rebuild
This product was tested in a car mag several years ago as they were trying to build a low dollar drag car and they used a hi mile V8 an tried this stuff as the compression was low and varied in most cylinders
And what do you know this stuff worked as it is advertised for the magazine folks and they even stated they were skeptical that is would.
After re checking the compression all the cylinders were very close to each and had raised the compression significantly
So why post info that you did no “real research” on and instead just show how ignorant you are on this product and how if functions
I just can’t stand people that perpetuate rumor and bad info just so they can sound like they know something
Like I said you are a Dummy

vristang · Nov 6, 2005

Yourfullofit said:
Funny

You tell this guy that the Engine restore is like heavy weight oil, and it’s like Vaseline, and it will clog filters and it is snake oil oh, and this comment what (about cross hatching. does it supposedly fill that too. i don’t buy it)
You Dummy the cross "Cross hatching” you refer to is only to seat rings on a new engine and is gone after such ring seating
All the suggestions that you have posted are just hear say (you hear it and just repeated what you hear like it was fact)
The truth is this product probably works in some hi mileage engines that just have normal wear in the cylinder walls and this product contains a package of very fine metals (copper ,silver, lead) and these get rube into the fine scratches in the cylinders wall and therefore improve the seal. And yes this product will be sacrificial in other words you have to use it every oil change to keep the benefit. It is a band aid that will help improve the engine performance until you rebuild
This product was tested in a car mag several years ago as they were trying to build a low dollar drag car and they used a hi mile V8 an tried this stuff as the compression was low and varied in most cylinders
And what do you know this stuff worked as it is advertised for the magazine folks and they even stated they were skeptical that is would.
After re checking the compression all the cylinders were very close to each and had raised the compression significantly
So why post info that you did no “real research” on and instead just show how ignorant you are on this product and how if functions
I just can’t stand people that perpetuate rumor and bad info just so they can sound like they know something
Like I said you are a Dummy

You just posted a bunch of info that you heard from another source, same as everyone hear. The only way you could avoid this is to actually reference the article that you mentioned, or better yet, post it up. I would be interested in reading it myself. But I am still skeptical of the long term consequences of using such a band aid.
In my opinion, if you run good oil, of the proper viscosity, and change it regularly, you will not have a need for any oil additives. The only way to repair a motor with blowby, is with a rebuild, period.

I suggest that before you start insulting peoples intelligence you read some of their past posts. I took the time to read all of your posts.
You are free to have any opinion, but HOW you express that opinion will have more of an affect on what people think of you than how sound your opinion is.

BlownFiveLiter · Nov 6, 2005

Yourfullofit said:
Funny

You tell this guy that the Engine restore is like heavy weight oil, and it’s like Vaseline, and it will clog filters and it is snake oil oh, and this comment what (about cross hatching. does it supposedly fill that too. i don’t buy it)
You Dummy the cross "Cross hatching” you refer to is only to seat rings on a new engine and is gone after such ring seating
All the suggestions that you have posted are just hear say (you hear it and just repeated what you hear like it was fact)
The truth is this product probably works in some hi mileage engines that just have normal wear in the cylinder walls and this product contains a package of very fine metals (copper ,silver, lead) and these get rube into the fine scratches in the cylinders wall and therefore improve the seal. And yes this product will be sacrificial in other words you have to use it every oil change to keep the benefit. It is a band aid that will help improve the engine performance until you rebuild
This product was tested in a car mag several years ago as they were trying to build a low dollar drag car and they used a hi mile V8 an tried this stuff as the compression was low and varied in most cylinders
And what do you know this stuff worked as it is advertised for the magazine folks and they even stated they were skeptical that is would.
After re checking the compression all the cylinders were very close to each and had raised the compression significantly
So why post info that you did no “real research” on and instead just show how ignorant you are on this product and how if functions
I just can’t stand people that perpetuate rumor and bad info just so they can sound like they know something
Like I said you are a Dummy

First, it's YOU'RE full of it, so if you're going to critisize, don't make yourself look like an idiot with your name choice, because you didn't learn correct word usage in second grade. Second, pull off a cylinder head and examine the bores sometime, I'm sure you'll still find the cross hatching alive and well, right where it was before the engine was ever fired. My 99k engine still had it, after 75k miles of my constant abuse, and the 62k mile engine I have on a stand still has it, too. Third, no one here ever said it wouldn't work, and most of us wouldn't use a "band aid" type product on our cars, but individual results will vary, since the reasons an engine are down on power aren't limited to compression. Don't come posting your "hear say" on here, when you haven't done anything to verify these statements with your own research either. You sure sound like the dummy now. :Teh-Win:

ECU5.0 · Nov 6, 2005

why would you dig up a thread that is almost 2 years old?

just4bob50 · Nov 6, 2005

I use the Engine restore in both my 140,000 mile mini van, and my 200,000 mile 1970 C-10 pickup. I saw the biggest improvement in my truck where my oil pressure went from continuosly low to normal levels. hell the pressure even moves when i blip the throttle now. Im satisfied with how the product works and will start using it in my stang.

Black1987Stang · Nov 6, 2005

Yourfullofit said:
Funny

You tell this guy that the Engine restore is like heavy weight oil, and it’s like Vaseline, and it will clog filters and it is snake oil oh, and this comment what (about cross hatching. does it supposedly fill that too. i don’t buy it)
You Dummy the cross "Cross hatching” you refer to is only to seat rings on a new engine and is gone after such ring seating
All the suggestions that you have posted are just hear say (you hear it and just repeated what you hear like it was fact)
The truth is this product probably works in some hi mileage engines that just have normal wear in the cylinder walls and this product contains a package of very fine metals (copper ,silver, lead) and these get rube into the fine scratches in the cylinders wall and therefore improve the seal. And yes this product will be sacrificial in other words you have to use it every oil change to keep the benefit. It is a band aid that will help improve the engine performance until you rebuild
This product was tested in a car mag several years ago as they were trying to build a low dollar drag car and they used a hi mile V8 an tried this stuff as the compression was low and varied in most cylinders
And what do you know this stuff worked as it is advertised for the magazine folks and they even stated they were skeptical that is would.
After re checking the compression all the cylinders were very close to each and had raised the compression significantly
So why post info that you did no “real research” on and instead just show how ignorant you are on this product and how if functions
I just can’t stand people that perpetuate rumor and bad info just so they can sound like they know something
Like I said you are a Dummy

Cylinders need honing marks, it also helps the oil cling to the sides of the cylinders, if there were none the oil would just slide right down the walls. I think youre just looking for trouble, kinda reminds me of that cobra ttt guy on here haha BTW If a magazine said driving a quart low on oil is better b/c of less windage, would you do it? I know i wouldn't. (theres already been a discussion about that here) Do you believe everything a magazine says. If anybody wants to know that restore stuff is a thin blue liquid, kinda looks like blue gatorade. I used it on my Very worn out motor and i didnt see a difference, but i saw a little difference and my dads high mileage Corolla.

Black1987Stang · Nov 6, 2005

89roadster said:
Anybody ever heard of putting ATF fluid in before an oil change? A guy that I know who rebuilds older engines and I respect says that one of his tricks to keep everything in the engine clean is to dump a cup of ATF in the engine a few hundred miles before changing the oil - it's supposed to break up any build up...but I have to wonder what it does to the seals????

The kind of cars that he works on don't see much action except at antique car shows

Ive heard this too, also supposed to clean out ur injectors if u put it in ur gas tank. Also works good for cleaning out cylinder bores before you assemble an engine b/c it is such a good degreaser/cleaner it takes away grease and residue you dont see by eye but you see it on the rag when u clean out the cylinders. I would think it wouldn't hurt the seals in an engine, an automatic transmission has seals don't it? If there made out of the same material idk.

65ShelbyClone · Nov 6, 2005

This thread is LONG past its usefulness, but I'll say my part anyway. Maybe someone will gain something.

First, no matter how hard oil companies try to market their "high mileage" oil, 75,000 miles is nowhere near high mileage anymore. 150,000 might be. 5.0s have low tension rings(among other things) and coupled with the better engine oils that have surfaced in the last 25 years, they easily last 200k before they start showing wear.

Second, goofing around with ATF or high-detergent additives in an effort to reduce sludge is unnecessary. Oil additive packages have greatly reduced the amount of sludge that builds up in a modern engine. When I had my '89 GT, I pulled the pan and VCs at around 178,000 and there was zero sludge. No synthetic were ever used in it either.

Just my take on the issue.

5.0tbirdguy · Nov 8, 2005

I can't resist. My 5.0 started having blowby after freeing up the exhaust. It ran lean and hot and clattered under part throttle for a couple days. The dipstick was actually shooting out the tube and pumping smoke. The tailpipe was clean though. I was in WalMart and bought a can of restore and a quart of lucas. Instantly fixed the blowby. Now 9000 miles later there still is NO BLOWBY! That stuff washed out 3 oil changes ago and I'm running Mobil 10/30.

RacEoHolic330 · Nov 8, 2005

Jeez.. this thread came back from the dead.

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