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Far fetched Goal?? Or am I on track?

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tone21g

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Ive been a long time lurker on here - but haven't really posted much. But now I was wanting some input on my plans for the car.

My goal: Has to be streetable, decent idle, and I want to be able to run with mildly modded 03/04 cobras - and vettes (non zo6s, just regular c6).

Current setup: Trick Flow 170 heads, 1.6 RR, Trick Flow intake (street burner), under drive pulleys, 24lbs injectors, 75 MM pro M meter, shorty header, X-pipe, and supper 40s. The car has 3.08 gears - steeda drag shocks - tockico 5 way adjustable and full leangth sub frame connectors.

Probable Plan : I was thinking a vortech si v3 should do the trick?? May bee with a power pipe and a good tune (kurgan?)

Reason : Im not much a track guy , but I definitely want to run with the cars I mentioned - even if its just for "spirited driving". I enjoy the challenge of working on my fox, and have done EVERYTHING my self- so this would be a nice project for me.

If I cant reach my goal with the Si trim , I am really considering just selling the fox and getting a termi!! I love those cars, but dont know if I can justify the expense of a 20k+ termi, when me fox might be at the same level (at least in grunt) for under 5k??

Sorry for the lengthy post !! Bottom line , with the mods listed above, the addition of a Si v3 - will/should I be running at the same level as a termi or a vette??

Any input would be awesome!! Thanks Guys!
 

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Long tubes, 3.55's, and an Si trim might do it. SQ trim or a turbo would do it for sure I imagine. A good tune is a must though.
 

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LarsD said:
Long tubes, 3.55's, and an Si trim might do it. SQ trim or a turbo would do it for sure I imagine. A good tune is a must though.
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I thought the Si was a better version of the S trim, and the SQ is basically a quiet version of an S trim ?Am I mistaken?
 

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tone21g said:
I thought the Si was a better version of the S trim, and the SQ is basically a quiet version of an S trim ?Am I mistaken?
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Well, the way I read it the Si trim is the 6psi version, and the SQ trim is the 8-10psi version. How much boost do you intend to run?
 

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Don't forget, 42s injectors.
 

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Its doable, and vs and 03 cobra i think it will come down to the driver, but if the cobra has alot done to it then your not gonna keep up
 

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Basically with your typical H/C/I stang with an s trim blower at 9-12 lbs you are looking at around 415-430 rwhp. Coupled with the fact that your stang should weigh only around 3200 lbs, throw in some 3.55's and youve got a potent combo. You will be right there in terms of hanging with c6's and termis etc...

I MIGHT know someone whos done all the above
 

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90lxcoupe said:
Its doable, and vs and 03 cobra i think it will come down to the driver, but if the cobra has alot done to it then your not gonna keep up
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Old man has 442 and 438 on a mustang dyno, with my 418 and 410 on the same dyno I whoop him every time, BUT BARELY. Always ends with him telling me I am number #1.
 

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7upstang91 said:
Don't forget, 42s injectors.
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42?? I might do 60lbsrs off the bat!

90lxcoupe said:
Its doable, and vs and 03 cobra i think it will come down to the driver, but if the cobra has alot done to it then your not gonna keep up
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Ya - I know there are always going to be faster cars out there, but I figure if I can scare a few unsuspecting termis . . .and some Vettes - Id be a happy camper
 

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fiveohwblow said:
Basically with your typical H/C/I stang with an s trim blower at 9-12 lbs you are looking at around 415-430 rwhp. Coupled with the fact that your stang should weigh only around 3200 lbs, throw in some 3.55's and youve got a potent combo. You will be right there in terms of hanging with c6's and termis etc...

I MIGHT know someone whos done all the above
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Man thats encouraging! I would hate to do the work and not be at the level I want to be at!
 

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Depends how much you're into the car for and what the upgrades are gonna cost. Seen some decent mileage cobras go for $15k+
 

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what if you store away or sell your current motor and trans and put the termi motor and trans in. i would think a stock 03-04 motor in a fox should keep up with a mildly modded 03-04 cobra. (just an idea)
 

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tone21g said:
42?? I might do 60lbsrs off the bat!



Ya - I know there are always going to be faster cars out there, but I figure if I can scare a few unsuspecting termis . . .and some Vettes - Id be a happy camper
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42s' will take you right up to 480rwhp...
 

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very doable, I assume you have a 5 speed i would buy a new trans slap that V3 on there and enjoy. Keep i under 480 to the wheels and have fun.

keep us updated im very exited about the v3 looks like an easy bolt on upgrade
 

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There are some pessimistic folks in here. 400rwhp will be more than enough to hand a C6 his ass... been there, done that. Stock Cobras will not be much of a race. The rest depends on what you mean by mildly modded. A ported eaton, full bolt-on Cobra will make around 500rwhp. That's going to be a hard car to beat. You can either make more horsepower (460rwhp should be plenty), or lighten the car to less than 3000 lbs - tough with a blower or turbo street fox, but can be done.

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FastDriver said:
There are some pessimistic folks in here. 400rwhp will be more than enough to hand a C6 his ass... been there, done that. Stock Cobras will not be much of a race. The rest depends on what you mean by mildly modded. A ported eaton, full bolt-on Cobra will make around 500rwhp. That's going to be a hard car to beat. You can either make more horsepower (460rwhp should be plenty), or lighten the car to less than 3000 lbs - tough with a blower or turbo street fox, but can be done.

Chris
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A stock Fox's fighting weight puts it at an advantage, I can feel the weight difference between my hatch and my Cobra. It is pretty noticeable, I think a H/C/I 302 with about 8psi of boost is going to do pretty well for itself, but it is pretty easy for a bolt on Cobra (03/04) and C6 to make power. Probably going to come down to driver ability more then anything.
 

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very doable, I assume you have a 5 speed i would buy a new trans slap that V3 on there and enjoy. Keep i under 480 to the wheels and have fun.

keep us updated im very exited about the v3 looks like an easy bolt on upgrade
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Yup - I have a refreshed t-5 in the car.

FastDriver said:
There are some pessimistic folks in here. 400rwhp will be more than enough to hand a C6 his ass... been there, done that. Stock Cobras will not be much of a race. The rest depends on what you mean by mildly modded. A ported eaton, full bolt-on Cobra will make around 500rwhp. That's going to be a hard car to beat. You can either make more horsepower (460rwhp should be plenty), or lighten the car to less than 3000 lbs - tough with a blower or turbo street fox, but can be done.

Chris
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Midly moded to me meens, Pulley, CAI, Tuner, things that I would say 85% of termis have done at this point.
 
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