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Noobz347

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JD1964 said:
Noobz,

I understand the interpolation that the ECU does between the lines. However, I have previously verified that my combo idles at roughly 27% air load. Given that fact, on the table you did, can the data in rows 0 and 1 be omitted and thereby opening up entries at other places in the curve to improve the table with actual useable data? Or, is the ECU’s interpolation function good enough that it wouldnt make a difference?

I was thinking maybe an entry at 120% and 140%. Or, other places if you recommend a better strategy. I can pay you for your time if needed.
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It is an interpolation like you say.

My recommendation is to run it and pull a data log. We'll let the feedback data tell us where the values need to be changed.
 
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JD1964 said:
Man this is awesome, thanks! What a treasure it is to have access to people so willing to share their knowledge and spend their time helping. I hope I can help others in meaningful ways. I'll get busy with this tomorrow and follow up! Thank you thank you and thank you again....
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You kidding? He googled that sht!
Seriously, I've seen what he worked with, near genius level and fears nothing, he was copilot when I crashed his toy chopper, didn't flinch, just said like "whoops, not good"
 
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I just googled it and it says Ford EEC IV does a 4 point interpolation calculation between two set values. That’s pretty good on its own actually
 

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I did 3 different datalogs. These are NA, not boosted (yet).

60 degrees ambient temperature.

1. Startup from cold and idle until warmup.

2. Gentle cruise with a few gentle gearshifts.

3. Full throttle 3rd and most of 4th. (had enough roadway but was gaining on traffic and had to let off before the top of 4th)

trying to upload these .csv files and the forum wont accept them
 

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Just me but if you have not I would do the following:

1) Have the injectors professionally cleaned. I have a set of Lightning 42 lb/hr injectors and they were down to 39 lb/hr and the spray pattern was not good.
2) install a dedicated 12 ga power wire and relay for the fuel pump. Use the old power wire (after the inertia switch) to trigger the new relay.
3) If you can swing it upgrade the fuel lines to 6AN as well as the fuel pump hanger.

This made a difference with my NA 331.
 
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You should be able to drop .csv files now.
 
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Here they are
 

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AeroCoupe said:
Just me but if you have not I would do the following:

1) Have the injectors professionally cleaned. I have a set of Lightning 42 lb/hr injectors and they were down to 39 lb/hr and the spray pattern was not good.
2) install a dedicated 12 ga power wire and relay for the fuel pump. Use the old power wire (after the inertia switch) to trigger the new relay.
3) If you can swing it upgrade the fuel lines to 6AN as well as the fuel pump hanger.

This made a difference with my NA 331.
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The injectors I got from a performance service and were claimed to be refurbished and ready and they dont have much time on them.

I like your idea about upgrading the power wire to the pump. (on the list now)
 

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There are a lot of channels that are not recorded in your data logs:

Exact tagDescription in his definition
NRPM
LOADLoad Actual
LOADXLoad%
TPThrottle Position Sensor
TSThrottle Status (CT/PT/WOT)
MPHVehicle Speed Sensor - MPH
SPARKSpark Advance
ACTAir Charge Temp
ECTEngine Coolant Temp
BAPBARO Sensor
VBATBattery Voltage
VMAFMAF in Volts (corrected)
IMAFMAF in Volts (uncorrected)
MAFMAF in Kg/hr
EVPEGR Valve Position—his wideband input
LAMBSE1LAMBSE - PS
LAMBSE2LAMBSE - DS
KAMRF1KAMRF - PS
KAMRF2KAMRF - DS
HEGO1HEGO Sensor - PS
HEGO2HEGO Sensor - DS
PW1Injector Pulsewidth - PS
PW2Injector Pulsewidth - DS
FLAGS1FLAGS1—includes OL, bit 2
FLAGS4FLAGS4—includes DFSO, bit 1
FLAGS10FLAGS10—includes WRMEGO, bit 2
DSDRPMDesired RPM
ISCDTYIdle Speed Control Duty Cycle
ISCFLGIdle Speed Control Flag
AEFUELAccel Enrichment Fuel
EFTRFFTransient Enrichment Fuel
ATMR1Time Since Start
TUNEPOSTune Position

A few specific corrections:

  • Use N, not N_BYTE. The latter stops reporting increases above 4,080 rpm.
  • The MAF entry has inconsistent labeling: its description says kg/hr, but its Units field says lb/min. Preserve the export’s units/header so we interpret it correctly.
 

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Keep ET and your working AFR channel selected, too.
 
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Noobz347 said:
There are a lot of channels that are not recorded in your data logs:

Exact tagDescription in his definition
NRPM
LOADLoad Actual
LOADXLoad%
TPThrottle Position Sensor
TSThrottle Status (CT/PT/WOT)
MPHVehicle Speed Sensor - MPH
SPARKSpark Advance
ACTAir Charge Temp
ECTEngine Coolant Temp
BAPBARO Sensor
VBATBattery Voltage
VMAFMAF in Volts (corrected)
IMAFMAF in Volts (uncorrected)
MAFMAF in Kg/hr
EVPEGR Valve Position—his wideband input
LAMBSE1LAMBSE - PS
LAMBSE2LAMBSE - DS
KAMRF1KAMRF - PS
KAMRF2KAMRF - DS
HEGO1HEGO Sensor - PS
HEGO2HEGO Sensor - DS
PW1Injector Pulsewidth - PS
PW2Injector Pulsewidth - DS
FLAGS1FLAGS1—includes OL, bit 2
FLAGS4FLAGS4—includes DFSO, bit 1
FLAGS10FLAGS10—includes WRMEGO, bit 2
DSDRPMDesired RPM
ISCDTYIdle Speed Control Duty Cycle
ISCFLGIdle Speed Control Flag
AEFUELAccel Enrichment Fuel
EFTRFFTransient Enrichment Fuel
ATMR1Time Since Start
TUNEPOSTune Position

A few specific corrections:

  • Use N, not N_BYTE. The latter stops reporting increases above 4,080 rpm.
  • The MAF entry has inconsistent labeling: its description says kg/hr, but its Units field says lb/min. Preserve the export’s units/header so we interpret it correctly.
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I’ll work on these things, thanks
 
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Yeah I didn’t realize you wanted me to log every tag. I’ll give it another go
 

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Noobz347 said:
Keep ET and your working AFR channel selected, too.
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I think ET shows up automatically because I never selected it as a parameter but it shows up in all the logs. I have edited the log payload to include all of the parameters you listed above. The count is 33 but that doesnt include ET. So, 34 parameters includung ET should be displayed on playback for the future logs.

Im struggling to figure out how to change the MAF units display field from lb/min to kg/hr
 

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I wanted to show the modified sea level spark table for boost. The finished table is a bit different because the program only has 7 lines for entry and they make you leave the bottom line at 0 so you really only have 6 positions to make entries. The air loads I need to enter has 8 data points. So I had to skip the second and fourth on the entry table and the program averaged the two missing data points. Here is the result. Does this look ok to start with?

Sea Level Spark (only active spark table)



 
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