Flaring a 65 Fastback?

fastbacker · Oct 30, 2007

I'm looking to get another inch of track per side on my 65 fastback but don't want it to look flared. Has anyone stretched their quarters by pushing out their wheelhouses and quarters? I'd love to see what was done and how it came out.

Thanks-
Craig Backer

CraigMBA · Oct 30, 2007

You mean flaring the fenders 1" and then painting them with the invisable flare hiding paint? I think that's the same stuff they used on Wonder Woman's Invisable Jet.

Ok, seriously.......you can either leave the fenders stock, you can flare them, or you can roll the fender lips flat on the inside. I flaring them just an inch will leave them obviously not stock. I knew a guy who radically lowered his car in the early 1990's who went to the trouble to cut off and re radius his wheel openings, but that was a little over the top even now.

What exactly wheel and tire package are you trying to fit?

coolblue65 · Oct 30, 2007

fastbacker said:
I'm looking to get another inch of track per side on my 65 fastback but don't want it to look flared. Has anyone stretched their quarters by pushing out their wheelhouses and quarters? I'd love to see what was done and how it came out.

Thanks-
Craig Backer

They did on the Total Control Products car, I really like it:

More here: http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/vehicles/tcpracecar/modifications.html

CochinoFilipino · Oct 31, 2007

Didn't someone use 67/68 quarter panels on a 65/66?

65 fastback · Oct 31, 2007

CochinoFilipino said:
Didn't someone use 67/68 quarter panels on a 65/66?

Actually they used '67 inner wheel well panels and stretched the stock '65 quarter panels over them. I think it yielded about an inch and remained very stock looking. I'll see if I can find the thread and post a link later.

Tim

mustbereel · Oct 31, 2007

65 fastback said:
Actually they used '67 inner wheel well panels and stretched the stock '65 quarter panels over them. I think it yielded about an inch and remained very stock looking. I'll see if I can find the thread and post a link later.

Tim

That was me. Here's the thread about using the 67/68 outer wheel housings to push out the stock 65 quarter panels.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=677887

Here's a side by side comparison:

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This was quite a bit of work and wouldn't recommend it unless you were already replacing the quarter panels.

I think it gave me about 1.5" extra on each side.

Here' a shot of the finished product. You really can't tell that it isn't stock unless you have a stock car next to it.

iskwezm · Oct 31, 2007

ooh, I like that

65 fastback · Oct 31, 2007

Mustbereel,

Thanks for posting. Your car is looking great and love your quarter panel mod!
What size tires can you fit in the rear?

Tim

mustbereel · Oct 31, 2007

65 fastback said:
Mustbereel,

Thanks for posting. Your car is looking great and love your quarter panel mod!
What size tires can you fit in the rear?

Tim

I have 275/40/17 on 17x9.5" rims. There is room on the inside for a larger tire but the foward strut of the Heidt's IRS gets in the way. I could have ordered the IRS with a narrower track width but didn't realize at the time that it would be necessary. I probably could have gained another inch on each side.

fastbacker · Oct 31, 2007

mustbereel said:
That was me. Here's the thread about using the 67/68 outer wheel housings to push out the stock 65 quarter panels.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=677887

Here's a side by side comparison:

-

This was quite a bit of work and wouldn't recommend it unless you were already replacing the quarter panels.

I think it gave me about 1.5" extra on each side.

Here' a shot of the finished product. You really can't tell that it isn't stock unless you have a stock car next to it.

Now that's what I'm talking about! Very cool!

rusty428cj · Nov 1, 2007

I'm building a 68 coupe and flared the fenders about 1 1/4" and the quarters. The fenders are alot easier. I used a cutoff wheel and cut the fender in the middle of the flare but left it attached at the bottom about 1/4" - 1/2" Spread it out the distance I wanted and welded in a patch. Did the same on the rear except you also have to cut the wheel house and patch that first and than the outter quarter.

mustbereel · Nov 1, 2007

rusty428cj said:
I'm building a 68 coupe and flared the fenders about 1 1/4" and the quarters. The fenders are alot easier. I used a cutoff wheel and cut the fender in the middle of the flare but left it attached at the bottom about 1/4" - 1/2" Spread it out the distance I wanted and welded in a patch. Did the same on the rear except you also have to cut the wheel house and patch that first and than the outter quarter.

I really like this idea and am tempted to try it on my 67. It just looks like an awful amount of grinding.

rusty428cj · Nov 1, 2007

This is how it looks now with most of the body work finished. It still has to be blocked and primed a few times.

RMODEL65 · Nov 1, 2007

i used maier racing flares they were glass and i purchased the whole front fender View attachment 351380
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ron67fb · Nov 2, 2007

RMODEL65 said:
i used maier racing flares they were glass and i purchased the whole front fender

It's about time you posted decent images of your car. Are those the 1.5" ones? The 3" ones which go halfway up the quarter panel look hideous to me. I thought the 1.5s would do the same but yours looks good.

twuxtop · Nov 3, 2007

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mustbereel said:
That was me. Here's the thread about using the 67/68 outer wheel housings to push out the stock 65 quarter panels.

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=677887

Here's a side by side comparison:

-

This was quite a bit of work and wouldn't recommend it unless you were already replacing the quarter panels.

I think it gave me about 1.5" extra on each side.

Here' a shot of the finished product. You really can't tell that it isn't stock unless you have a stock car next to it.

what would a narrower track width do to the g handling? can you pull a g or near? good stuff thanks.

Applejack · Nov 3, 2007

Track width is a factor in weight transfer on that axle. Increasing the width, decreases weight transfer. Doing this on one end or the other can be used to tune the balance.

mustbereel · Nov 3, 2007

twuxtop said:
what would a narrower track width do to the g handling? can you pull a g or near? good stuff thanks.

I doubt I can pull anywhere near 1g. Perhaps with some really sticky tires but I would expect more like .85-.9g as it is. If I had decreased the track by 2" and put 1" wider tires in the outside-outside dimension would be the same. This probably would have had little effect on road holding. There may have been undesireable effects on bump steer and camber change due to the shorter control arms.

67Thunder · Nov 3, 2007

I did mine only it's a'67

It took a long long time to get it right. I think there are afew pics of the process on this site.

I would not recommend it to the faint of heart. I moved the inner wheel houses in an inch and cleared the front portion of the inner wheelhouse, which usually angles back towards the tire. Instead now the wheelhouse is even all the way around.
I widened the outer wheelhouse and moved the quarter out (stretching it) this was about all I could do unless I performed surgery with a cutter.

There's some pics with a 17 x 11" rim I tested a few weeks back. I can fit a 315-35-17 or 295-30-18 no problem, now.

RMODEL65 · Nov 4, 2007

ron67fb said:
It's about time you posted decent images of your car. Are those the 1.5" ones? The 3" ones which go halfway up the quarter panel look hideous to me. I thought the 1.5s would do the same but yours looks good.

yeah they are 1.5 inch i was going for a weight savings and thats the reason iwent went with the glass front instead of molding them in the entire front end except for the headlight buckets are glass heres a couple more pics View attachment 350688
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