for some reason my car idles.....

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

ok i was expecting my car to not idle at all.....today i wrapped up my h/c/i
ported twisted wedge heads
edelbrock performer rpm
fti cam (rather large)
13* timing
75tb
30's and 80mm pro-m
fuel pressure is 42
every other bolt on there is

there is ZERO tuning done right now, but it idle and drives fine theres a couple little quirks that happen but nothing that affects drivability at all. im surprised but happy

it sounds absolutely NUTS by the way. all hail the lopy CAM

nmcgrawj · Apr 20, 2006

AND VIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Using my heads and dont even post up pics!

Glad to hear the good news

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=625798

all i got right now. my freind whos camera i was using is back at school. I guess i could try and use my moms digi camera....but asking her may be a lost cause

nmcgrawj · Apr 20, 2006

Yea i saw that thread right after i posted

mootang · Apr 20, 2006

video?

Killercanary · Apr 20, 2006

Just a FYI- my car idled great for about two weeks after adding the H/C, but as soon as I started tuning on it with adding timing and fuel the dreaded surge and die syndrom started. I hope you are lucky enough that it doesn't happen to you, but I figured I'd warn you. I've seen this happen to a few others as well.

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

Killercanary said:
Just a FYI- my car idled great for about two weeks after adding the H/C, but as soon as I started tuning on it with adding timing and fuel the dreaded surge and die syndrom started.

if i understood you correctly, you only ran into issues once you started to tune it (with on e of the self tuners)?

the thing is i am incredibly broke right now and dont have the money to do any tuning to it so if for now it idles thats fine with me.

Grn92LX · Apr 20, 2006

When I put that cam in my car it idled like crap. If you think that cam is big, you should see my new one

Good to hear its all done. I can't wait to see the results! I did about 300rwhp with that cam, unported TW heads and a tfs street heat manifold. You should eclipse that by a lot! It'll want a 6200-6300 ish shift, possibly higher. I shifted at 6000-6200 with that cam with less head and less manifold.

Bump that timing up to around 18*.

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

Grn92LX said:
When I put that cam in my car it idled like crap. If you think that cam is big, you should see my new one

Bump that timing up to around 18*.

its large considering i almost kept the stock cam. i dont know what i was thinking

I also need gears BAD 2.73's are not gonna cut it with this motor

18* ????why so highhhh

final5-0 · Apr 20, 2006

Mr. Paul beat me to it but, I'll post it anyway

Good for You

I hope it stays that way for you

Grady

Grn92LX · Apr 20, 2006

94gts said:
its large considering i almost kept the stock cam. i dont know what i was thinking

I also need gears BAD 2.73's are not gonna cut it with this motor

18* ????why so highhhh

You need 4.10's for this combo. But you had told me you might be spraying so the 4.10's will put you out of your powerband on the spray. I say gear it right and stay n/a.

18* will be the ballpark area for best power. Fyi, I gained 1.5 mph at the track going from 14* to 18* on my old TFS 302 combo. Trust me, you've listened to me this far

Killercanary · Apr 20, 2006

94gts said:
if i understood you correctly, you only ran into issues once you started to tune it (with on e of the self tuners)?

No, I tuned it originally with the dizzy and an adjustable FPR and THAT is when my idle problems started. It was at that time that I had to buy the eec tuner to cure the idle. I wish you luck, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't start to act up on you. I don't know the specs but mine is on the small side as 302 cams go and I had issues.

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

i messed with a few things today...spent a few hours with the car trying to understand all the new parts. My fuel pressure was actually at 45, i guess i had it higher last year to compensate for my stock 19's. It is now down to 40. the lower fp made it run MUCH better.

I have an occasional idle issue....Starting the car when it is cold, yields the idle holdong at like 1500 then dropping down to 750 (normal like it should). BUT, after a hot start it will ocasionally surge, sometimes die. When driving the car, it has not died once when coming to a stop nor does it surge at all. It just happens sometimes after a hot start and takes a few revs to calm down.

also, it will not start unless i put my foot on the gas to open the tb a little. Why is that?

94gts · Apr 20, 2006

oh and the cam..... the .050" specs are .547/.536, 224/228 duration, 110lsa.

it may not be that big but its quite a step up from the stocker!

94gts · Apr 21, 2006

i did some beating on it today

changed my msd pill from 6k to 7k. I did a 1-2 shift a tick over 6k, i think the mph was around 50 at the top of first. 2-3 came in around 80.

all i can say is the car will not stop pulling from 3k to where i shifted the car, and that is with 2.73's.

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