Ford is going over the edge.

skunk21 · Jan 11, 2008

This is just nuts. I was reading a post over on svtp and wanted to share it. the members over at black mustang club wanted to make a calendar the mustang of the month winners when they where notified by the company they hired to print the calendars that Ford Motor Company told them to stop. Ford it seems owns all rights to the vehicles and images of the vehicles they sell including your pics according to them. So if we wanted a calendar of our monthly winners they now say they own the pics . it's not like some company went out and took pics of mustangs or other fords and are selling them in stores everywhere, it's a car club selling calendars of members cars they own to support thier club. what's next can post pics and then use them for wallpaper, avaiters, club events..get real. this wasn't big business merchandising or copyright infringment no Ford logo's, GT500 logo's, shelby etc. going after the core market that supports your product is just insane.

I'm a loyal Ford guy but.....Ford is loosing thier freaken minds.

here is some links to get the story:

post # 42
http://www.bmcforums.com/showpost.php?p=1331698&postcount=42

full post
http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42402

25thmustang · Jan 11, 2008

Only one Ford badge on my car, and if it were up to me it would be gone...

By the way it's actually a black oval not a blue oval, so technically... no real Ford badges on mine .

PUNISHER RACING · Jan 11, 2008

stykthyn · Jan 11, 2008

stupid nazi's. I really hate ford and what they have become, there is not a single oval on my car.

Aliate X · Jan 11, 2008

loyal to ford? yeah right lol

69clark · Jan 11, 2008

No ford ovals here either.

On top of that, there isn't a day in HELL that ford is every going to tell me what to do with MY pictures, of MY car that I built, EVER. F*** Them!

woodyy24 · Jan 11, 2008

wow, ford f-ed up on this one.

25thmustang · Jan 11, 2008

69clark said:
No ford ovals here either.

On top of that, there isn't a day in HELL that ford is every going to tell me what to do with MY pictures, of MY car that I built, EVER. F*** Them!

Ovals, I don't have a single ford badge, no LX, no 5.0. The Black oval is all I have. Don't even have a Cobra plaque on the intake, LOL!

fastford91 · Jan 11, 2008

ford dont care about our mustangs and how much work we put into them! all they care about is the all mighty dollar! thats all they want from us nothing more! cant use my pics !!!!! I SAY BLOW ME F.O.R.D!!

cenok is family · Jan 11, 2008

that's f****** retarded. f*** ford.

fastford91 · Jan 11, 2008

i think you should be able to use any pics you want ! that you took! hell use my pics and tell them to come after me for it!! LOL

FoxBodyGT · Jan 11, 2008

People with Mustang or Blue Oval or Ford Tattoos better be watching the mail for a cease and desist (sp?) letter.

RS200 · Jan 11, 2008

I would make the calendar anyway, but not put any Ford copyrighted names on it. They have no grounds for a lawsuit at all.

PeteyAce · Jan 11, 2008

when i seen the title of this post i thought it was advertisement for the new edge

wythors · Jan 11, 2008

What actually happened was Ford stopped Cafepress.com from selling a calendar to BMC. Cafepress's own terms of service state:

NO use of trademarks, names, or logos of companies. For example, you cannot use the name of a company such as Nike, a company logo such as the Nike "swoosh" trademark, or brand name such as Coca Cola, or a modified version of a trademark, (e.g., "Just Did It").

NO pictures or photographs of products (such as toys). Even if you own a product, trademark laws may still prohibit you from selling merchandise that features pictures of it. For example, you cannot take a picture of your Barbie and sell merchandise with that picture.

There's no way that they should have agreed to produce the calendar in the first place. Everyone knows that Ford has become a licensing nazi. Mustang Tuning had to change their name, floor mat companies have been sued and countless other businesses have been hit. The issue was a big stink starting two or three years ago.

This idea that Ford is going after the Black Mustang Club is completely wrong. They're going after a company that was trying to make a profit selling an unlicensed Mustang calendar. If BMC was a non-profit organization like most Mustang clubs are, they could self-produce their own calendar and Ford wouldn't bother them. Since Cafepress is a for-profit company, they have to pay a fee.

skunk21 · Jan 12, 2008

wythors said:
What actually happened was Ford stopped Cafepress.com from selling a calendar to BMC. Cafepress's own terms of service state:

NO use of trademarks, names, or logos of companies. For example, you cannot use the name of a company such as Nike, a company logo such as the Nike "swoosh" trademark, or brand name such as Coca Cola, or a modified version of a trademark, (e.g., "Just Did It").

NO pictures or photographs of products (such as toys). Even if you own a product, trademark laws may still prohibit you from selling merchandise that features pictures of it. For example, you cannot take a picture of your Barbie and sell merchandise with that picture.

There's no way that they should have agreed to produce the calendar in the first place. Everyone knows that Ford has become a licensing nazi. Mustang Tuning had to change their name, floor mat companies have been sued and countless other businesses have been hit. The issue was a big stink starting two or three years ago.

This idea that Ford is going after the Black Mustang Club is completely wrong. They're going after a company that was trying to make a profit selling an unlicensed Mustang calendar. If BMC was a non-profit organization like most Mustang clubs are, they could self-produce their own calendar and Ford wouldn't bother them. Since Cafepress is a for-profit company, they have to pay a fee.

no one said that ford went after bmc(which is in thier post), it was the fact that bmc was blocked from making a calendar with thier own pics. I would think any company the site would hire to make them would be a for profit company and there lies the glich, they would have to own the printer and print them on thier own, charge enough to cover the costs and don't make a profit I would guess, it still stinks. I did hear about the crazy deal with ford going after companies with mustang in thier name, this came after the redesign and the renewed interest in the mustang before for all those years the companies had the names I guess Ford didn't care about the older stangs, but going after car club calendars . what would stop them from having stang.net remove the stickers and t-shirts because it has the horse or a mustang car on them, I'd like to see them try but you get the point, it's outta control.

DoubleAgentMan · Jan 12, 2008

Just wait until Ford gets the bill for all the years thier emblem was being advertised on MY Mustang (personal property).

Ford should know adverstising isn't free!

RedGTvert · Jan 12, 2008

greensvt21 said:
no one said that ford went after bmc(which is in thier post), it was the fact that bmc was blocked from making a calendar with thier own pics.

This of course is running all over the internet. The way BMC is telling the story, that Ford speciffically called and told CafePress they cannot print the BMC calendar, when in fact, Ford advised CafePress last year that they can no longer print anything that will infringe on their trademarks.

I am willing to bet, they submitted the order with the pictures to CafePress without knowing this and CafePress, rightfully said they could not print it.

Ford is not saying no to MBC as they insinuated in the many threads all over the internet, but Ford is saying no to CafePress, the company that is profiting from the use of tademarks.

Sure, it is a quandary for BMC to find a way to do this, but as I suggested in one of the earlier threads to contact Ford to ask their permission to do so, which I would think, Ford would approve since this is a limited production calendar, available to it's members and not for broad public sale and profit.

Hate me if you want, but I agree with Ford trying to protect it's lawful right to protect it's trademark.

foxmustangman · Jan 12, 2008

^Thanks to the few who researched and actually know what's happening. Even though licensing has become tough for all companies as time goes on...I'm still with Ford.

skunk21 · Jan 12, 2008

I'm not saying I'm going to run out and sell all my fords over this but really I'm not with ford in this. Protecting your trademark is one thing and they should been consistent over the years instead of going house the least few years on every tom, dick and harry using the mustang name sake. Its crazy to have every little mustang club call ford to get permission to print a calendar, what's next mustang club of america can't exist, they use logo's. I can see this post going know where, they should leave the little guys alone is all the point I'm trying to get across. foxmustangman your point isn't valid, you beat on mustangs in the mud!

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