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Build Thread Fox Length Axles And Stock Sn95 Brake Brackets

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Noobz347

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Chuckman said:
those spacers hes talking about dont move the wheel OUT, they just adapt the fox axles to make the sn rotors hub-centric instead of lug-centric (the sn hub is a larger diameter than the fox hub). basically its like a bearing race that slips over the fox axle hub, and the sn rotor slips over the spacer, centering the rotor on the axle, and the back of the rotor still sits on the front of the axle flange. iirc you can also get aftermarket fox-length axles with the sn hub and lug pattern and avoid using the ring spacer.

the washers between the caliper and the bracket are to center the caliper over the rotor, some need more than others (production tolerances). even a lot of the nrc brackets need washers like this to line them up right.
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That makes a lot more sense. Appreciate the time you took finding a way to explain that piece.
 

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Chuckman said:
those spacers hes talking about dont move the wheel OUT, they just adapt the fox axles to make the sn rotors hub-centric instead of lug-centric (the sn hub is a larger diameter than the fox hub). basically its like a bearing race that slips over the fox axle hub, and the sn rotor slips over the spacer, centering the rotor on the axle, and the back of the rotor still sits on the front of the axle flange. iirc you can also get aftermarket fox-length axles with the sn hub and lug pattern and avoid using the ring spacer.

the washers between the caliper and the bracket are to center the caliper over the rotor, some need more than others (production tolerances). even a lot of the nrc brackets need washers like this to line them up right.
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Couldn't have explained it any better myself. Thank you!
 

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Sorry, been out of town on business. But yes, those are exactly how the spacers work. I made a small attempt at fabbing my own out of a steel pipe cuppling, but after 20 minutes of grinding, and still not being close, I just ordered those. They work pretty well.

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I'm in the middle of doing this conversion on my car, but I'm using my existing Fox housing with Ranger axles. Does anyone have an idea on mounting the SN95 soft line brackets?
 

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I plan on using 03-04 Cobra parts. My car is still 4 lug with SVO front, North Race Cars Disc conversion. Still need to get the fox length axles, rims & tires.
 

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ReefBlueHatch said:
I'm in the middle of doing this conversion on my car, but I'm using my existing Fox housing with Ranger axles. Does anyone have an idea on mounting the SN95 soft line brackets?
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Purchase 94-95 Mustang rear soft lines. They bolt to the axle housing. 96-later lines bolt to the body, so you don't want those.

I think the lines are $10-20 each from an autoparts store. I sprung for the MM stainless lines on mine. Tough to see but the mount is right behind the shock
 

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Thanks, Mike. I referenced the FRPP 2300K instructions; I removed the lower shock bolt, moved the shock out of the way, drilled and tapped a hole, and installed the line. I already have my swap finished, I just need to bleed the fronts. I can't wait to try out the new brakes and a fresh Trac-Loc.
 

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Did this brake swap work out ok ??? Looks like a cheaper way to install sn95 disc brakes on my car...I have a 95 with a fox 89 rearend...Will C-Clip eleminators still work also ??? I have mosier 35 spline axles, full spool and drum brakes....
 

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billy408stroker said:
Did this brake swap work out ok ??? Looks like a cheaper way to install sn95 disc brakes on my car...I have a 95 with a fox 89 rearend...Will C-Clip eleminators still work also ??? I have mosier 35 spline axles, full spool and drum brakes....
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Anyone ???
 

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Billy I'm in the same boat. I am hoping to make it work with stock length axles. I have strange axles and spool. There has to be ways as people narrow rear ends often enough and still run disc. I also thought that if I had to buy true custom axles I may just narrow the rear while I'm at it.
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billy408stroker said:
Did this brake swap work out ok ??? Looks like a cheaper way to install sn95 disc brakes on my car...I have a 95 with a fox 89 rearend...Will C-Clip eleminators still work also ??? I have mosier 35 spline axles, full spool and drum brakes....
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Who would swap an 89 rear into a 95? Did you buy it that way?
 

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Those spacers aren't necessary, the rotor indexes onto the studs and centers just fine without them. That said, great writeup. Whodathunk? You will need some adapter fittings to attach the SN95 flex lines to the Fox hard lines. I think they're Edelman 258340 3/16 x 1/4
 

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Lmfao. My dad swapped an 88 into his '96, and that's how he taught me to do this
In his defense, he didn't know the SN rears were wider, and his car was originally a V6 so he didn't have the SN 8.8 to start with
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Who would swap an 89 rear into a 95? Did you buy it that way?
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88LX5.Oh said:
Lmfao. My dad swapped an 88 into his '96, and that's how he taught me to do this
In his defense, he didn't know the SN rears were wider, and his car was originally a V6 so he didn't have the SN 8.8 to start with
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A friend of mine was just trying to set all this up, He run into one problem...He has 35 spline moser axles, the axle flange measure's about 6-1/4 ... The rear rotor we have has a step inside and the axle flange won't sit flat against the inside bottom rotor... The rotor is abou 5"+ where the step is , close to the bottom....
 

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billy408stroker said:
A friend of mine was just trying to set all this up, He run into one problem...He has 35 spline moser axles, the axle flange measure's about 6-1/4 ... The rear rotor we have has a step inside and the axle flange won't sit flat against the inside bottom rotor... The rotor is abou 5"+ where the step is , close to the bottom....
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Do you have a friend with a lathe?

Can the step be machined off so it fits?

Only issue is every time you do rear brakes you'll need to do this.




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I'm going to resurrect this thread again and try to post some pictures later this week of the flange brackets to show how you can avoid cutting away the 4th hole. I'm super close to finishing my rear
 
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Okay so I made some progress on my own flanges this afternoon.
I cut away the "bottoms" of the flanges for the OEM left and right sides first.
When you do this,
Left side will now be right side mounted
Right side will now be left side mounted
Both should mount flat against the inside of the axle bolt holes.
You will more than likely have to grind a radius to the opening in order to clear the factory welds on the inside of the bolt holes where they are welded to the axle. You want to make sure that these are flush against the bolt hole plate.
On the flange plate, you'll probably want to use a washer for both of the bottom left corner bolts as you will cut away half of the original hole.
Hope this helps along with the OP.
 
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So if you’re using c clip eliminators would that throw any of this off ?
 
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