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Killa

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tamadrummer88 said:
I had a 98 GT for a couple years and i never had that problem. only changes from NPI to PI was intake and cams mostly.
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99+ only
 

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Killa said:
I like the 99+ for dependable DD, but beware when u look for a 99+ mustang, ask how long ago it change the plug, cause these engine know to blow out plug, most peoples have to recheck and re torque the plug every oil change.
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I don't know anyone who had that issue and when i had my '03 GT, a lot of my buddies had 99+

Only person I know who blew a plug out of a 4.6L head did so on an explorer. He put a helicoil in it and it's been fine ever since with 160K miles on it now.
 

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The 99+ had different cylinder heads which was the bulk of the performance gain. The spark plug problems are real. Ford even makes a special tool to fix the problem. Trouble can be avoided by using good quality plugs and torquing them correctly. Most of the problems came from those that changed the plugs and replaced them with off brands.

The back two cylinders of a 4.6 tend to run hotter due to an improperly proportioned cooling jacket. This is not a problem unless you are really trying to push it with the tune.

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when I had my 02, it blew out while im far away from home. I though I blew up my engine, $400 to tow and fix the problem, my mechanic told me to recheck and retorque the plug every oil change ( 6 month ), just to be sure. I check the plug every time Im going out off town. couple month later, another one blew out, I end up Heli all other 7 and never worried about it again. I sold the mustang not too long after that though.

I still miss the PI 4.6 with loudmouth catback system. From time to time I want get back into the 99+, because the bad preview experiment I dint look for it any more.
 

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Honestly, checking and retorquing would be the last thing I'd do. That alone could potentially stress the threads and weaken them.
 
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Killa

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Mustang5L5 said:
Honestly, checking and retorquing would be the last thing I'd do. That alone could potentially stress the threads and weaken them.
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wanna be sure ? Heli all 8 ^^
 

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I've heard of those popping out too.
 

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Only 99-04 I would consider over a nice fox is a 03-04 cobra or mach 1.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
I'd like a new stang, but at $40K to get it optioned out the way I wanted.....eh
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I know, ridiculous.. 40 fn K for a mustsng gt. Heck Hyundai's are $30k now a days. Pisses me off. Ps: Ry if you plan on selling er don't put anymore $ into it than you have to.
 

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If you apply an inflation calculator to the price of a 1993 Mustang, the price of a Mustang has not actually gone up at all. $40K in today's money is pretty on par with the $17,999 sticker on my 93' GT.

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If you apply an inflation calculator to the price of a 1993 Mustang, the price of a Mustang has not actually gone up at all. $40K in today's money is pretty on par with the $17,999 sticker on my 93' GT.

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I guess so but I wouldn't say wages have increased as much as the calculators would have us believe.
 

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I guess so but I wouldn't say wages have increased as much as the calculators would have us believe.
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Wages have been steadily decreasing for 50 years, but that's a different discussion. The increase in the cost of the Mustang is consistent with the increase in costs of other things.

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revhead347 said:
Wages have been steadily decreasing for 50 years, but that's a different discussion. The increase in the cost of the Mustang is consistent with the increase in costs of other things.

Kurt
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Seriously... Every year I watch the parts for my car get more and more expensive, and my paycheck isn't going up... My first complete Edelbrock Performer EFI intake was $250 - $300.
 

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Story of America. But you can finance a new Mustang and pay for it later, so that's why it's cost effective.

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revhead347 said:
If you apply an inflation calculator to the price of a 1993 Mustang, the price of a Mustang has not actually gone up at all. $40K in today's money is pretty on par with the $17,999 sticker on my 93' GT.

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I say Maybe true but it definitely doesn't feel that way. I bought a lot of new cars in the 90's up to early 2000's. These new ones are over priced. I was looking at new 1/2 ton f150's last weekend. There's no f'ing way I'm paying nearly 50k for a truck. 40k is to much for a regular mustang GT. I refuse to buy another new vehicle. Ever
 

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I say Maybe true but it definitely doesn't feel that way. I bought a lot of new cars in the 90's up to early 2000's. These new ones are over priced. I was looking at new 1/2 ton f150's last weekend. There's no f'ing way I'm paying nearly 50k for a truck. 40k is to much for a regular mustang GT. I refuse to buy another new vehicle. Ever
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me too....would never buy a brand new car!,unless i was rich of coarse...
 

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My wallet refuses to buy a new car ever. If you buy a $50,000 car or truck new at 60 months, that's like a house payment.

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Me either... After interest and full coverage insurance requirement the cost is way more than the car is actually worth. In addition to once you drive it off the lot brand new you might as well half the value.
 

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That's why i buy them 1 year old.


You can save 20-30% right there
 
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Seriously... Every year I watch the parts for my car get more and more expensive, and my paycheck isn't going up... My first complete Edelbrock Performer EFI intake was $250 - $300.
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The wages where I work have gone up $3.67 an hr in 14 years, almost on par w inflation... I've only been at this plant a yr but there are some fellas that've been there 30 yrs making the same as me.
 
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