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Gearbanger 101 said:

If you don't plan on building it beyond that, or don't plan on building it beyond 275fwhp or so, you could install a set of 1 1/2 inch headers instead of the more popular 1 5/8 inch. They still breath considerably better than the stockers, yet will allow you to retain most of not all of your low end torque, while also ableing your engine to breath deeper up top too.

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My point exactly. you will lose on the bottom end and maybe even at the top to, for some reason every one thinks that louder is faster, it's not. In every comparison that you see in a magazine every engine that they use to test these headers and exhausts are modified, which personally pisses me off. Just cause it makes 10 horse on a 400hp engine doesn't mean it will help you any. Any one that says that you don't need torque is thinking on a track not a street, you are not going to peg the thing every time you leave a light are you? Sorry for the rant, but I get upset when people think that loud is fast. I'm not saying that it wouldn't help you on a Heavily modified car, But it's almost like people (especially ricers) think that open headers works on my buddy's drag car so it will make my street car fast. I had one kid want me to do his civic with three inch duals, retarded. I'm sure it will be loud but with no back pressure he'll have to get his buddies out to push it from a stop light. again sorry for the rant, my 2 cents.