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I'm currently shopping for a new(and improved) front suspension for my 1968 daily driver. I drive my car hard on the weekends and spend too much time in traffic during the week. I realize some may believe the original suspension is fine...I don't. There is always room for improvement. If the design was perfect Ford would still be using it.
That being said, I realize it's a 36 year old car. The RRS system is intriguing, however, I don't have enough feedback or enough money. The TCP/Unique Performance coilover system would be great if it didn't make the ride too harsh(so I'm told). One option is a shelby drop with boxed arms. The other is to use either the Global West or TCP tubulars which both incorporate improved geometry. I'd love some feedback by owners of those two systems. Thanks.

 

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OOH OOH me too! I've been looking real hard at the global west real hard. I would love to have the group 3 for my 65 but hey...that will be awhile.

 

allcarfan

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what is the price on the coil overs and upper and lower tubular set up from global west?

 

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good luck finding any TCP stock...they are in the midst of a 'reorganization'....

...I would try the Shelby drop and some other cost-effective mods before dropping the big coin on the aftermarket stuff. Its good but will blow a Roseanne-sized hole in your wallet...thousands for a complete setup.

 

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allcarfan said:

what is the price on the coil overs and upper and lower tubular set up from global west?

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There was a thread either here or on corner carvers that said it was near $3k depending on shock options.... I do not know the accuracy of the statement.

 

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I figured it would be that much.

Its amazing that you can buy tubular Aarms, a complete tubular front kmember, adjustable height coil overs, ball joints, nice adjustable shocks, and caster/camber plates for a fox chassis for under $1000.

Heck, that setup without the shocks or the caster camber plates goes for $549 shipped.

Are we paying for extensive research and design?

 

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allcarfan said:

I figured it would be that much.
Are we paying for extensive research and design?

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I think you are paying for small market segment that is full of a lot of options.

 

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My brother just installed TCP lowers on his 65 coupe. The compliment the TCP uppers he installed a long time ago. Add to that a roller bearing spring perch saddle thingy, and adjustable solid mount heim joint strut rod...and the car is unreal. I put all new stock components in my car with the same roller perches and strut rods.

I will be installing TCP uppers and lowers as soon as I get a job (just got laid off again)

 

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People are wondering about cost differences so here it is:

Global West System (Uppers, lowers, strut rods) $1795

TCP System (Uppers, lowers, strut rods) $1755

TCP/Unique Coilover System $2400

Both GW and TCP tubular setups take into account the need for new springs, shocks, perches, insulators, shipping and some small misc. expenses. Like I said before, the coilover system is out based on the feedback regarding ride quality. If anyone has heard different I'd like to know. I have yet to hear of anyone using the RRS system. The RRS system requires you to buy both suspension and brakes at the same time with costs in the $3000-4000 range (ouch).

 

allcarfan

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dodgestang...we are always hiring...pm me.

 

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Not sure where you got your pricing. But I think you are not including the coilover shock system on the first two.

The Global West Coilover system runs $2700-3000 depending on year model and options...

The TCP Coilover system use to be $2300, not sure what Chassis Works will do but I've heard they are going up.

The UP Coilover system runs $2300-2400 depending on where you buy it.

Ride quality? Well when you move to improve handling, you sacrifice ride quality no matter what! You need higher spring rates to keep the wheels on the pavement!

 

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The first two numbers are not for coilover systems as stated in the original post. Those are systems based on the original suspension but take into account the need for a drop on the uppers as well as lengthening the upper slightly and modifying angles. Each uses tubular components instead of stock for less flex in the system. They each have different approaches to strut rods. Chassis Works aka TCP is currently maintaining prices and as was stated is planning to raise them in the near future. According to the grapevine they have begun to fill new orders, however there maybe a several week delay.

 

allcarfan

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someone needs to come up with a new, cheaper system. No way these parts constitute that price tag.

I need to call some of my mechanical engineer buddies and see what we can do.

 

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Ahem...our system will be much cheaper. I was going to stay out of this thread, but I feel like some of you should be aware that we are very near to a completion of our coil over kits.

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allcarfan

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Dolfan,

I remember you posting on this particular subject. I just forgot who exactly posted about it. Keep me updated por favor.

 

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Allcarfan, check out this thread...

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=496033

I am calling the CNC guy today, and hopefully he has our quote.

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dolfan87 said:

Allcarfan, check out this thread...

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=496033

I am calling the CNC guy today, and hopefully he has our quote.

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Oh boy, I sure hope this is going to become one of those "Hysteric" flame wars again.

Not to complicate things further, but I seem to remember reading an article recently where someone was putting the new Flaming River setup to the test?!?!?!? I'll have to hunt for the exact info, but I remeber the bulk of it being positive if that is worth anything. I have no personal experience with it though to back it up. I seem to recall though that the biggest benny was being able to easily use power steering and headers, but not sure.

 

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I second GP's bananas....

The Swede

 

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Pakrat said:

Oh boy, I sure hope this is going to become one of those "Hysteric" flame wars again.

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Those historically happen when discussing topics of this nature