going to the dyno friday.....

luckythirteen13 · May 15, 2006

set an 12 noon apointment for friday at the dyno tuner. lets see who is the best at estimating hp by looking at a list of mods.

its a dynojet thats only a couple months old. my mods are as follows:
302c.i.
K&N air filter
Pro-m 80mm MAF sensor
Professional Products 70mm throutle body
Professional Products 70mm EGR spacer
Professional Products intake manifold (upper and lower)
Mac equal length shorty headers
Summit Racing catless H-pipe
Flowmaster-Delta Flow mufflers (with dumps)
NGK spark plugs
Mr. Gasket high flow 180 degree thermostat
electric radiator fan
MSD 8.5mm super conductor spark plug wires
MSD TFI ignition coil
MSD 6AL ignion box
Powerslot slotted rotors
Hawk Racing performance pads
Edge Racing 3200rpm stall torque converter
B&M transmission cooler
AFR 165 aluminum heads (58cc)
Scorpion aluminum roller rockers 1.6
hardened push rods
Trickflow 3/8" heat spacer
Strange 10 way adjustable rear shocks
UMI rear upper control arms
Mega Bite Jr rear lower control arms
adjustable pinion snubber
weld in sub-frame connectors with seat support
4 cylinder mustang front springs
strange 10 way adjustable front struts
Ford Racing 3.73:1 gears
Ford Racing 31 spline limited slip differencial
Moser 31 spline hardened axels
Torque link
Kirban adjustable fuel pressure regulator and gauge
T-rex inline fuel pump
Ford Racing 42# injectors
255lph fuel pump
battery relocated to trunk
Load Boss 3G 150A alternator
Vortech S-trim supercharger (3.00" pulley)
AFM methanol/distilled water injection
UPR boostmaster pipe
programmable engine management system (PMS)
STOCK BLOCK AND ALL INTERNALS (INCLUDING CAM)
theres the info, lets hear those estimates

Roland69 · May 15, 2006

K&N = 370 RWHP

fidstang · May 15, 2006

What made you decide on the 58cc chambers to use with the s trim?

poneypower89 · May 15, 2006

fidstang said:
What made you decide on the 58cc chambers to use with the s trim?

Exactly my thought... compression will be fairly high... Granted not entirely so high boost is impossible.. but definetly higher than what I would want to drive around with.

maverick0716 · May 15, 2006

395.5 rwhp.....

luckythirteen13 · May 15, 2006

i went with the 58cc because at the time, i had no intentions on getting a sc. afr says that would give me a ~9.6:1 but with the thicker header gasket im running its probably 9.5:1 max so i dont think the compression is bad...besides, thats what methanol is for

fidstang · May 16, 2006

luckythirteen13 said:
i went with the 58cc because at the time, i had no intentions on getting a sc. afr says that would give me a ~9.6:1 but with the thicker header gasket im running its probably 9.5:1 max so i dont think the compression is bad...besides, thats what methanol is for

expensive stuff
I would say right around 380whp but torque is where it will shine 420wtq.

$uperstang · May 16, 2006

Through an AOD I would say 378rwhp and 400rwtq

Blk91stang · May 16, 2006

The only different things on your combo than mine is I have stock ported heads (also 58cc ), SC-Trim, and 5-speed. I made 405rwhp @10psi so I would hope with your meth, S-Trim, and AFR165's that you should eclipse the 400rwhp mark very easily. I'm gonna go with 435rwhp 416 lb-ft/tq.

$uperstang · May 16, 2006

Blk91stang said:
The only different things on your combo than mine is I have stock ported heads (also 58cc ), SC-Trim, and 5-speed. I made 405rwhp @10psi so I would hope with your meth, S-Trim, and AFR165's that you should eclipse the 400rwhp mark very easily. I'm gonna go with 435rwhp 416 lb-ft/tq.

The BIG difference is the AOD and converter. Dyno numbers will never show the true potential any AOD with a conveter will ever have. Maybe much lower nmbers than your car, BUT it may just be MUCH faster

Curse · May 16, 2006

I say 450 hp and 420 tq. Good luck

luckythirteen13 · May 16, 2006

i think curse is going to be near dead on.
ive dynoed 403rwhp before the power pipe, methanol and edge racing converter with an afr of 10.5:1

Curse · May 16, 2006

My guess was without the methanol injection, if your tuner knows how to use the stuff then the numbers are going to be a lot higher.

luckythirteen13 · May 17, 2006

Curse said:
My guess was without the methanol injection, if your tuner knows how to use the stuff then the numbers are going to be a lot higher.

im my tuner lol. i have a pms, im just using the dyno to dial in my tune since its safer then flooring it on the freeway and ill be able to dial in timing easier. that way i can see at what point adding more timing stops being beneficial so that i run the minimum timing needed

plan to start off with 25* timing but make my way to 30* at least and possibly a couple more. afm recomends 9-15* more timing with their meth kit over what it would run without it. and 25* is pretty normal for 10-11psi of boost

9250stang · May 17, 2006

420 RWHP, 450TQ

Curse · May 17, 2006

luckythirteen13 said:
im my tuner lol.

Then lets hope you know what you are doing

86bluecobra · May 17, 2006

geez sounds like you are going to have a killer set up when you are done. BTW is that meth kit always flowing or is it a on off type thing? if it is a on off do you have a retard to take out 9-15 degrees of timing when it is off?

luckythirteen13 · May 17, 2006

the methanol sprays when under boost. the more psi your pushing, the more methanol it injects and as soon as you let off the gas it stops flowing.

i dont boost a whole lot on the street so im not real concerned with having a non-methanol tune but ill probably make one some where down the road. but since i rarely boost on the street im not worried about running out. and the few times i have floored it on the street, the first thing i do when i get home is refill the bottle even though its still 90% full

Blk91stang · May 17, 2006

$uperstang said:
The BIG difference is the AOD and converter. Dyno numbers will never show the true potential any AOD with a conveter will ever have. Maybe much lower nmbers than your car, BUT it may just be MUCH faster

Well I do have a 331 stroker and custom cam on the way to compliment my top end...

I know what you mean though, he should make awesome power!!

luckythirteen13 · May 19, 2006

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=5/13818033986.jpg&s=f5

the numbers as you can see are 407rwhp and 417rwtq. picked up 4hp and 17tq. but as you can see the afr is way off and the hp numbers shows something screwy happening at 5000rpms but because the afr was off the chart we dont know what happened. more then likely a rich spike.

the cars last run, i had -34% fuel entered in the pms which means i was only running 66% of the fuel the stock computer was programmed to run at wot. my firt that was "WFT!!!!" with a sc running that low of fuel and still off the chart rich. dyno tuner said it sounds like the maf might be screwing me but hes not sure how the pms works so i called rick anderson while i was still at the shop. the very first thing he said when i described the problem was bad maf. said thats it for sure and since i did buy the maf used, i guess im buying a new one in the next couple days. but on the plus side, look at it this way...407rwhp and 417rwtq from the stock block, cam and all internals, on 10.2psi of boost, with an afr off the chart rich and only 27* total timing (should be more like 32-35* with the methanol) through an AOD transmission. not bad i suppose

also, all the runs were back to back. i made 6 runs in less then an hour so there was no time for the intake to cool down. we iced it once but it was on the 3rd run and thats not on this graph.

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