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bdepedro

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My '70 fastback came from the factory w/ drum brakes but now has front discs. I did not do the conversion so I don't know if it was converted using Mustang or Granada spindles. The spindles have the following markings "DOZ 3108-C" and the calipers are marked "27". Can anyone tell me anything based on this info?
 

ratio411

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D0Z 3108-C
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Since the Maverick didn't get discs until D4 (1974), and those were the ones used on Granada when it came out in D5 (1975), I'd say your D0 (1970) spindles are the correct upgrade part for your D0 Stang.


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Just a bit more info...
The 70-73 Stangs used the same brake systems.
So it could have been sourced from any of those, but be correct for your car.
 

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i agree
 

bdepedro

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ratio411 said:
Since the Maverick didn't get discs until D4 (1974), and those were the ones used on Granada when it came out in D5 (1975), I'd say your D0 (1970) spindles are the correct upgrade part for your D0 Stang.


Edit:
Just a bit more info...
The 70-73 Stangs used the same brake systems.
So it could have been sourced from any of those, but be correct for your car.
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Thanks - I suspected they were Mustang since I don't remember specing anything other than Mustang when I replaced the pads a while back. I'm upgrading to a power brake booster and adding braided steel lines so this info is very helpful.
 

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bdepedro said:
Thanks - I suspected they were Mustang since I don't remember specing anything other than Mustang when I replaced the pads a while back. I'm upgrading to a power brake booster and adding braided steel lines so this info is very helpful.
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I actually use Granada spindles on the race car and have had not one problem. Be concerned with the after market type, simply because of the lack of testing.

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ratio411 said:
Since the Maverick didn't get discs until D4 (1974), and those were the ones used on Granada when it came out in D5 (1975), I'd say your D0 (1970) spindles are the correct upgrade part for your D0 Stang.


Edit:
Just a bit more info...
The 70-73 Stangs used the same brake systems.
So it could have been sourced from any of those, but be correct for your car.
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couls also be falcon, torino or cougar as well.
 

ratio411

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bnickel said:
couls also be falcon, torino or cougar as well.
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True, however the car it was sourced from is really immaterial as they are the same parts. If he went to the parts house and asked for brake pads for a 70 Stang, 69 Montego, or 70 Cougar (for example)... he would still get the same brake pads. All the same parts.

The important thing is that he doesn't ask for Granada, Maverick, or small bearing parts like 68 Torino or 69 Stang, for example.
 
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HistoricMustang said:
I actually use Granada spindles on the race car and have had not one problem. Be concerned with the after market type, simply because of the lack of testing.
www.historicmustang.com
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So should we be concerned about replacement tie rod ends, rotors, springs, etc.. that are reproduced copies of original parts but not tested or just spindles?
 
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ratio411 said:
True, however the car it was sourced from is really immaterial as they are the same parts. If he went to the parts house and asked for brake pads for a 70 Stang, 69 Montego, or 70 Cougar (for example)... he would still get the same brake pads. All the same parts.

The important thing is that he doesn't ask for Granada, Maverick, or small bearing parts like 68 Torino or 69 Stang, for example.
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true, very true.
 
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SNAKEPILOT said:
So should we be concerned about replacement tie rod ends, rotors, springs, etc.. that are reproduced copies of original parts but not tested or just spindles?
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if we're going to racing we should really have everything magnafluxed or X-rayed anyway, so it shouldn't make any difference
 

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If you had to remove several fasteners and clips to change the pads, you have the original-type calipers.

Granadas/etc. have one bolt, a wedge and a spring to keep the calipers in place.
 

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SNAKEPILOT said:
So should we be concerned about replacement tie rod ends, rotors, springs, etc.. that are reproduced copies of original parts but not tested or just spindles?
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IMHO no aftermarket parts should be used for racing unless they are checked after every session for possible defects. I have preached this for years.

And, they should be checked on a very regular basis when used on street cars.

These aftermarket parts simply do not go through the testing provided by the original manufacturers.

My main concern is aftermarket suspension parts being added to a vehicle and then that vehicle sold to an individual not knowing the parts are being used or the new owner does not go through the needed inspections.

HistoricMustang
 
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bnickel

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HistoricMustang said:
IMHO no aftermarket parts should be used for racing unless they are checked after every session for possible defects. I have preached this for years.

And, they should be checked on a very regular basis when used on street cars.

These aftermarket parts simply do not go through the testing provided by the original manufacturers.

My main concern is aftermarket suspension parts being added to a vehicle and then that vehicle sold to an individual not knowing the parts are being used or the new owner does not go through the needed inspections.

HistoricMustang
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honestly, i'd be more worried about 40 year old original parts than new aftermarket parts, especially if the new aftermarket parts are exact copies of the originals.
 

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bnickel said:
honestly, i'd be more worried about 40 year old original parts than new aftermarket parts, especially if the new aftermarket parts are exact copies of the originals.
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bnickel,
Trust me, this discussion will go nowhere.
 
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bnickel,
Trust me, this discussion will go nowhere.
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i know what you mean. and as most people know historic and i don't usually get along very well for the most part
 

HistoricMustang

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Trust me.

Rehab and sensitivity training is well worth the effort!

You gentlemen have a nice day.

HistoricMustang
 

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Let's be nice guys...
I don't want to bring out the wooden spoon today.
 
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bnickel said:
i know what you mean. and as most people know historic and i don't usually get along very well for the most part
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actually, i should rephrase that and say that in the past we have words and disagreements but for the most part lately i think we have had a certain agreement, basically that we are both as bullheaded and stubborn as one another and usually just end up doing a lot of meaningless typing. i do respect some of his opinions but not all and i believe the feeling is mutual with him or so i understood it.
 

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Anyone actually ever seen a V-8 spindle break?

I've seen six cylinder spindles go, but never a V-8 spindle.
 

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bnickel said:
actually, i should rephrase that and say that in the past we have words and disagreements but for the most part lately i think we have had a certain agreement, basically that we are both as bullheaded and stubborn as one another and usually just end up doing a lot of meaningless typing. i do respect some of his opinions but not all and i believe the feeling is mutual with him or so i understood it.
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Same feelings here.

It is imperative in a forum environment that different opinions be expressed.

I have been away for awhile working on some non-profit projects
( www.augustainternationalraceway.com ) and want to reconnect as time permits with members of the board.

There are numerous opinions on how to approach early model Mustangs. Mine is more of a basic, budget nature with the idea being that those individuals that live on limited resources can enjoy their rides just as much as those that may be a little more fortunate.

No one needs to feel inferior and everyone needs to get involved with Stagnet if you posses an early model Mustang.

HistoricMustang
 
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