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tc67pony

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My car usually starts up first turn when its cold, along with one or two pumps of the gas to turn the choke on. But when I drive for a while and it gets up to running temp. and I go to restart it it will take a while to start. It sounds like my timming is to far advanced, but its only at about 8-degress, the only way she'll start up again right away is to give it more gas while starting it when its hot, but usually I don't need to do this. Its like whats the deal. It acts as if its flooded, but its not. I don't know any suggestions.
 

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Mine isn't too bad to start when, hot, but definately not half as fast as a cold start. If it's really tough you might want to try a starter heat shield?
 

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mine does the same thing tc67pony, starts so easy cold, but once hot, it turns over for a bit before starting??? i dont know what the problem is
 
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I've found that my car will be harder to start after sitting for 15minutes to about an hour. To fix it I usually feather the throttle a bit while the key is in the start position and this keeps the engine from dying right after startup.
 

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Mine is just the opposite, Is it turning over fine when it is warm or is it dragging some
 
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yes, feathering the throttle definetly helps, but I have had a couple of people tell me to look into a heat sheild.
 

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starter is dragging as its most likely overheating because the exhaust pipes are real close to it. As stated, you can purchase a heat shield for the starter. . Another possible fix is a high torque mini starter, which gives you more space from the exhaust.
 

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ahhh it all makes sense now
 

ratio411

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Sounds like a heat soak condition at the starter as some have put forth.

Timing would be another problem, but you have ruled that out.
Next could be a heat soak condition in the fuel system, aka vapor lock.

These would be the areas I would look at long and hard.
Good luck
Dave
 

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my 65 FB did this, i agree with the starter, it sounded ALOT weaker during a warm startup. It would nearly sound like my battery was dead o.O
 
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Since you didn't mention that it was slow turning over, I wont presume it is a dragging stater. More like a too rich choked condition, or poor tune. Check the condition of the plugs, points if you have them, carb idle mixture screws and it may be posible that you have a float problem.
 
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No its a daily driver just about, I have electronic ingnition so points are out. Somtimes the starter will turn over very slowly--like the battery is dead or somthing, but once I give it gas the starter will spin faster and the engine will usually start. It could be running a little rich on the choke, but I also need to check my air fuel mixture too posibbly, I need to get my vaccum gauge out. But now I really do think its the heat from my headers.
 
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tc67pony said:
No its a daily driver just about, I have electronic ingnition so points are out. Somtimes the starter will turn over very slowly--like the battery is dead or somthing, but once I give it gas the starter will spin faster and the engine will usually start. It could be running a little rich on the choke, but I also need to check my air fuel mixture too posibbly, I need to get my vaccum gauge out. But now I really do think its the heat from my headers.
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Yea, could be.
 
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Check the condition of your cables also. If the starter is spinning slow, the cables are heating up. Clean all connection points to guarantee good contact and r&r anything that is corroded or weak. I went to a larger guage cable set up on mine and eliminated the same problem that you are having with warm starts. Worth a check and might find out that you aren't in need of a starter.
 
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