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Harriers, Helocopters, and Water, Oh My!

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krash kendall

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Harriers, Helicopters, and Water, Oh My!

Thought some of you guys would find these amusing.....

Bell 206 Jet Ranger

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Wow. What an idiot, I hope that helo pilot died for his stupidity.
 

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I loved the commentator on the Bell Jet Ranger crash...........
 
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And that, my friends, is what we in the rotary wing business call Dynamic Rollover...what was he thinking? I bet those were his last thoughts too...
 

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You have to remember, the Jet Ranger was working perfectly. It flew him directly to the scene of the crash!
 

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Many, many moons ago (when I was in the AF), we were instructed that the OFFICIAL Air Force definition of crash is..:"A landing in which the vertical velocity is so great, and the time reducing it to zero is so short, that structural failure occurs."
 

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65stanger said:
Many, many moons ago (when I was in the AF), we were instructed that the OFFICIAL Air Force definition of crash is..:"A landing in which the vertical velocity is so great, and the time reducing it to zero is so short, that structural failure occurs."
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Isn't that similar to the MC's "unofficial" urging that Scarrier pilots try to stay with their ships above all else??? The idea being "If the pilot punches out, it's a crash. If he rides it down then it's only a hard landing. If the "flying surfaces failed upon landing' because the tip gear punches through the wings themselves (or if the wing spars themselves fail); hey, it's still just a hard landing, because officially "the AV-8B very rarely crashes".
If the military had wanted a kid with an engineering background and a blown out knee "back in the day"; I think I still would have preferred a Warthog (or even a flying eggbeater) over a Scarrier. 'Course, the Army agrees with me (over the Corps) on that; but that's not all that surprising
 

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Hey SD, that particular harrier incident was a complete engine failure - and I swear that pilot landed right back on the plane, so he only left the ship for a few seconds before returning. Could he chalk that one up as a hard landing? Oh, and speaking of hard landings........

Student pilot trying to land an Airbus
 

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Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, if you can re-use the aircraft it's even better!
 
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Roger that, since 12APR04, and recently as June, I've "spent" about $96mill in Iraq. Walked away from both without a scratch. One was a shoot down, the other a "hard landing". Both helos destroyed. Oops. HEY! I'm a gunner, not a pilot, it wasnt MY fault....as always FLY LUCKY! It'll out perform skill any day!
 

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slepe67 said:
Roger that, since 12APR04, and recently as June, I've "spent" about $96mill in Iraq. Walked away from both without a scratch. One was a shoot down, the other a "hard landing". Both helos destroyed. Oops. HEY! I'm a gunner, not a pilot, it wasnt MY fault....as always FLY LUCKY! It'll out perform skill any day!
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God Bless!
 

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slepe67 said:
Roger that, since 12APR04, and recently as June, I've "spent" about $96mill in Iraq. Walked away from both without a scratch. One was a shoot down, the other a "hard landing". Both helos destroyed. Oops. HEY! I'm a gunner, not a pilot, it wasnt MY fault....as always FLY LUCKY! It'll out perform skill any day!
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65stanger said:
God Bless!
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I'll agree with my large hirsute friend
And don't forget that you need to fly lucky while in the States as well. Wasn't all that many weeks ago that a pilot tried to duplicate the Scarrier video up this thread - only his bird splashed down in somebody's backyard swimming pool in a neighborhood too close to the runway approach here in Yuma Marine Corps is still working out how much that's gonna cost!
 

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StangDreamin' said:
...................And don't forget that you need to fly lucky while in the States as well. Wasn't all that many weeks ago that a pilot tried to duplicate the Scarrier video up this thread - only his bird splashed down in somebody's backyard swimming pool in a neighborhood too close to the runway approach here in Yuma Marine Corps is still working out how much that's gonna cost!
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I thought the pilot did that intentionally 'cause the ground crew "FORGOT" to wash the bird..................
 
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I was at that airshow where the Harrier 'went in'. Thank goodness it was over the sea, and not on land - there would have been flaming bits all over the place.

Scary, man.

All pilots that eject join a special club that even has it's own tie...some consolation!!
 

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I was at that airshow where the Harrier 'went in'. Thank goodness it was over the sea, and not on land - there would have been flaming bits all over the place.

Scary, man.
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Scary? The bird that flamed out over our town was carrying a couple "live but not armed" 500 pounders and 300-odd rounds of 25mm. That's scary!

There were 1250 residences evacuated from the 2km "blast radius" for 14 hours after the crash; until almost all the 25 mike-mike was recovered. Plane landed mostly in a private swimming pool, but it "overlapped" into three other backyards (there was an intersection of 4 property boundaries under the port wing root).
 
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StangDreamin' said:
Scary? The bird that flamed out over our town was carrying a couple "live but not armed" 500 pounders and 300-odd rounds of 25mm. That's scary!...QUOTE]

OK, so you got me there, but you don't expect to see a 'plane just fall out of the air as you look at it...
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Another one for you - a still this time...

http://www.leenks.com/gallery282-25.htm
 

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Limey, that was a cargo plane that taxied over a seneca. Probably didn't even feel it.
 
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Looks like something out of a Bond movie - but then it would have happened mid-air...
 
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