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Has Ford Racing fixed the 3v intake???

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Zora

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I was getting ready to buy one...before I seen the video. $550 for a milk jug is too much!!! If they fix the flexing I might be interested.
 

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This is a bit off topic (well WAY off topic) Your avatar, is that your garage? (VERY nice I must say) My eyes just don't see as well as they used to, I think I see the Stang in the back, but whats that other car, I'm guessing a Dodge Charger.

The reason I ask is simply because I think the two sweet red cars in that spotless garage with the checker board floor is outright AWESOME, my dream garage.

I'm sorry I can't offer any info about the intake, I had no idea there was the problem that you mentioned, would you mind elaborating on the "flexing" that you speak of? It couldn't hurt for me to be armed with this knowledge in case I ever were to look into buying one.

Thanks in advance
 

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Zora said:
I was getting ready to buy one...before I seen the video. $550 for a milk jug is too much!!! If they fix the flexing I might be interested.
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I believe Ford issued released a statement that the flexing was normal and to be expected. Ford Racing Performance Parts See the blue part at the bottom.

There are other companies that make intake manifolds. This is what I'm looking at: 2005+ C&L 3-VALVE MUSTANG INTAKE MANIFOLD

Lastly, your garage definitely looks awesome
 
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I have heard that they quietly released a newer version that does not flex, but I'm not 100% sure on that.


edit: try calling a few tuners/vendors to find out for sure.
 

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Im sure McNew Automotive could anwser that question

717-432-9503
 

SpartaPerformance

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IMO, unless you're running a centri blower or turbo spend your $550 elsewhere.
 

Zora

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Mustanglvr2006 said:
This is a bit off topic (well WAY off topic) Your avatar, is that your garage? (VERY nice I must say) My eyes just don't see as well as they used to, I think I see the Stang in the back, but whats that other car, I'm guessing a Dodge Charger.

The reason I ask is simply because I think the two sweet red cars in that spotless garage with the checker board floor is outright AWESOME, my dream garage.

I'm sorry I can't offer any info about the intake, I had no idea there was the problem that you mentioned, would you mind elaborating on the "flexing" that you speak of? It couldn't hurt for me to be armed with this knowledge in case I ever were to look into buying one.

Thanks in advance
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Yes...that is my garage. 2007 GT torch red....and a 2009 dodge Challenger Hemi orange.
 

Zora

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SpartaPerformance said:
IMO, unless you're running a centri blower or turbo spend your $550 elsewhere.
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I am running a Procharger D-1...
 

Zora

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erichmess_ said:
I believe Ford issued released a statement that the flexing was normal and to be expected. Ford Racing Performance Parts See the blue part at the bottom.

There are other companies that make intake manifolds. This is what I'm looking at: 2005+ C&L 3-VALVE MUSTANG INTAKE MANIFOLD

Lastly, your garage definitely looks awesome
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Ford....flexing is normal...LOL That's all they can say trying to cover their own ASS. The flexing is not normal....it's cheap and poor design. It's funny because I work for Ford.
Ford just fix the Dam thing and quit trying to Bull **** everyone! When they fix it I'll buy one...scared my Procharger D-1 will suck it in and spit it out!
 
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Zora said:
Ford....flexing is normal...LOL That's all they can say trying to cover their own ASS. The flexing is not normal....it's cheap and poor design. It's funny because I work for Ford.
Ford just fix the Dam thing and quit trying to Bull **** everyone! When they fix it I'll buy one...scared my Procharger D-1 will suck it in and spit it out!
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did you try calling tuners?
 

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Zora said:
I am running a Procharger D-1...
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I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with the intake. Bridges flex, skyscrapers can sway 10 - 20 feet. If an intake is designed to hold as much boost as FRPP claims then perhaps it would break if it were stiff and brittle.
 

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Despite all that, 5.0 mag did a test and the results weren't as impressive as I thought they would be...
 

Zora

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Flexing intake is not normal...period. They just need to fix the problem.
Comparing skyscrapers to a plastic intake???
 
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There's a reason SC and TC plumbing is made of steel.

Trust me, my 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege Turbo came w/plastic pipes. First thing I replaced.
 

SpartaPerformance

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Zora said:
Flexing intake is not normal...period. They just need to fix the problem.
Comparing skyscrapers to a plastic intake???
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What's wrong with that comparison, if they didn't sway they would crumble and fall, so what's to say if the intake didn't flex it wouldn't blow up under high boost. I'm not an engineer nor have I talked to any of the engineers to hear what their logic is behind the "black lung" effect.
 

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Zora said:
Flexing intake is not normal...period. They just need to fix the problem.
Comparing skyscrapers to a plastic intake???
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all intakes flex. plastic ones do it more. aluminum flexes more than steel.

you aren't going to make a piece of plastic that bolts to two aluminum heads that are bolted to an aluminum engine with various things hanging off of said engine and not have the little plastic piece between the two heads flex.

thats just ridiculous. ask anybody that knows anything about any material and they'll tell you that without give things break. thats why there are things called tolerances.
 
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Zora said:
Flexing intake is not normal...period. They just need to fix the problem.
Comparing skyscrapers to a plastic intake???
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dude, if you dont like the flexing then dont buy it. I understand your perspective, but none have failed yet, so you could probably just wait and see. If you're not running a built block/trans, then you're probably beyond your safe limit anyways. I've read that transmissions blow in 5th on the highway with over 500whp.

Have you tried calling tuners to see if the part number has changed since the first batch?

Brenspeed lists theirs with a part number, just like the CNL (known for their re-release), so maybe the frpp was upgraded too. Shoot chandler an email and find out.

FRPP m-9424-963v Intake Manifold Mustang GT (05-10)
 

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all intakes flex. plastic ones do it more. aluminum flexes more than steel.

you aren't going to make a piece of plastic that bolts to two aluminum heads that are bolted to an aluminum engine with various things hanging off of said engine and not have the little plastic piece between the two heads flex.

thats just ridiculous. ask anybody that knows anything about any material and they'll tell you that without give things break. thats why there are things called tolerances.
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Thats weird...my factory plastic intake does not have Black lung.
 

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mjk said:
dude, if you dont like the flexing then dont buy it. I understand your perspective, but none have failed yet, so you could probably just wait and see. If you're not running a built block/trans, then you're probably beyond your safe limit anyways. I've read that transmissions blow in 5th on the highway with over 500whp.

Have you tried calling tuners to see if the part number has changed since the first batch?

Brenspeed lists theirs with a part number, just like the CNL (known for their re-release), so maybe the frpp was upgraded too. Shoot chandler an email and find out.

FRPP m-9424-963v Intake Manifold Mustang GT (05-10)
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More than likely I will not buy it....I'll go with the C&L.
 

Zora

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MakotoS13 said:
all intakes flex. plastic ones do it more. aluminum flexes more than steel.

you aren't going to make a piece of plastic that bolts to two aluminum heads that are bolted to an aluminum engine with various things hanging off of said engine and not have the little plastic piece between the two heads flex.

thats just ridiculous. ask anybody that knows anything about any material and they'll tell you that without give things break. thats why there are things called tolerances.
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Well aware that materials flex....but not to the point you can watch it breathe.
 
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