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Exhaust Header issues - Follow up of my emission issue thread

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General karthief

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Before you order anything try to find the source of the fuel smell, it could be the o ring on pump hanger or a hose. Or even the vent hose
 
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General karthief said:
Before you order anything try to find the source of the fuel smell, it could be the o ring on pump hanger or a hose. Or even the vent hose
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Look before you buy,it's good advice.
 

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Dan02gt said:
The FPR could be a issue. Check your fuel pressure with the vacuum line connected and disconnected. You should see about 40psi with it disconnected and in the low 30s with it connected.
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My FPR tester arrived today as well as my vacuum leak tester.

Fuel pressure with key on:



Fuel pressure after 15 minutes (key off), while idling, while accelerating, with connected and disconnected vacuum line on FPR:



Vacuum test:


What do you think?

I would say I have issues with my fuel pressure as the gauge readings do not change as expected.
I tested the FPR with the vacuum gauge and it did hold the vacuum.
I have installed a new fuel pump incl. hanger and strainer. Maybe the fuel pump is not strong enough? It came up in the parts list of RockAuto so I assume it should be the right one...

Regarding the vacuum test:
The needle is vibrating once the reading is steady.
In this video it is said that this could be worn valve guides:


Could this be the case or are these vibrations "normal" on a 302?
 

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I was following the guide of @jrichker.
Exception: For the fuel pump test I removed the hose of the return line next to the tank as I don’t have a fuel line disconnection tool and the fuel lines around the gas tank are rubber fuel lines with some standard clamps.

Result:
The fuel pressure stopped rising at 48 psi. It was also rising very slow.

I reassembled all and tested the pressure again. No change with vacuum line on or off the FPR.

So I would assume the pump does not produce enough pressure.

What do you think?
 

General karthief

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The hose from the pump to the hard line on the hanger has possible split, time to drop the tank.
 

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General karthief said:
The hose from the pump to the hard line on the hanger has possible split, time to drop the tank.
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Yesterday I did drop the tank and removed the pump.
I could not see any issues. Here some pictures from the hanger:



The tank looks clean inside. No visible debris.
The grommet of the Fuel Tank Vent Valve is quite worn. It has a lot of cracks so I ordered a new one.

I had a new 255 LPH universal fuel pump at home so I installed it on the old hanger:


On this hanger the rubber lip is missing on the return line:


I could use the one from the new hanger but I still would like to know if this thing is important and what it does or if I even could run the pump without it.

So I will install this pump these days and hope it will deliver the required pressure.
 

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That little red or orange thing is actually a drain back valve. It's common for high flow pumps to blow them off. Never seen a real issue because one is missing. May cause you to have to cycle the key....with my FPR I have to do that anyway.
 
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