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PhLoBuS

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I have an H pipe and I want new headers the one on my stang have really had it... What header should I go with BBK? MAC? FRPP? and also should I get short headers or long headers? Unequal or equal? I was thinking of going with unequal shorty let me know!!
 

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Long tube BBK's the way to go. I had a set and they were excelent quality. DON'T get Macs they are junk.
 

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I like my ford racing stainless steel ceramic coated. Long tubes would be a good option but you'd have to either get a new mid pipe or have some fabrication done to your H.
 

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I forgot the pic

 

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Headers

How do I know if my H-Pipe can support long tube headers or not??
 

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How much did those cost whytry? they look very nice, im a big fan of ford racing products
 

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Headers

How do I know if my H-Pipe can support long tube headers or not??
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if it is stock, it would not bolt up, basically if you don't have long tubes on there now your H would not bolt up to the Long tubes
 

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PhLoBuS said:
How much did those cost whytry? they look very nice, im a big fan of ford racing products
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I bought them from summit FMS-M-9430-P51

http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=esection.asp&N=120+4294923429+4294923428
 

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I should also mention that the unequal length headers will be by far the easiest to install, you say you already have an H-pipe, so why spend again for a mid pipe when you could use the $$$$ some where else.
 

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yeah true, stock mustang comes with an H pipe?
 
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My BBK shortie equals were a breeze to install.
 

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1 5/8ths BBK's are probally the best bang for the buck. If your going to go shortie then just go unequals, if you want more just go ahead with some longtubes from BBK.

I recomend longtubes, I think they are worth the extra cost even though you will need to get a short H pipe along with it or have the current H pipe cut shorter. I have a set of BBK 1 5/8ths ceramic shorties I got as collateral in a parts trade, they were painted black but otherwise in good shape, if your interested PM me.

Oh yeah, while you are at it, get copper head gaskets or you'll learn like I did.
 
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What is the main difference between short headers and long headers. Also 90MustangGT why does the copper head gasket matter?

Thanks,
 

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Short headers are like the ones posted above. Long tube headers are much much longer and the collector is near the transmission. Also if you have an AOD most LT's won't fit without modification. As far as gaskets I use Fel-pro 1415's and no problems here. Copper gaskets aren't worth it IMHO. Yeah they're reuseable but for $60 vs $15 you can replace them a few times.
 
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I got mac unequal shorties & there a really tight squeeze & a bitch to tighten cause there all wound up in like a knot & a problem I found was spark plug wires touching and air conditioner line & the radiator hose line that runs to your exhaust will sit right on it, I had to use some muffler wrap to keep from melting, if I had it to do all over again I would go unequal but the equals do look cool
 

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I've had Mac 1 5/8 unequal shorties on my previous Mustang as well and I can agree with the consensus that they're a pretty poorly made header. If short tubes are what you're budgeted for, the FRPP headers are second to none in finish and quality. You can't go wrong with them.

The best set of long tubes Ihave ever seen was neither BBK nor Macs. They were Kooks. They’re pricey, but they’re one of the best-constructed headers with the nicest most durable finish I have ever seen.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
The best set of long tubes Ihave ever seen was neither BBK nor Macs. They were Kooks. They’re pricey, but they’re one of the best-constructed headers with the nicest most durable finish I have ever seen.
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I agree with you on that. I went from a set of BBK's to Kooks and the Kooks are about double the price. Uncoated.
 

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PhLoBuS said:
yeah true, stock mustang comes with an H pipe?
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To the best of my knowledge yes, my car was bone stock when I bought it, and it had a H-pipe on it.
 
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I just bolted on a set of 1.75" BBK Ceramic LT's, a BBK OR X pipe, and a Flowmaster American Thunder catback, and could not be happier.

Get the LT's, and be done with it...heck, a 2.5 OR H pipe to fit the LT's is only $119...get the LT's, you won't regret it.

Hax
 
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I know what the difference is between shorties and long headers physically, but what about performance wise???

Thanks.
 
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