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Heidt's MII suspension DOES NOT change engine position: PROOF

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reenmachine

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Here is it once and for all -- this test is actually scientific and completely valid.

Two fastbacks side by side, a '67 and '68, which for all purposes here are identical. Both all-original sheet metal and undercarriage. Both confirmed square and straight to factory specifications.

The green car has a Heidt's MII IFS installed by me, with the Heidt's motor mount stands connected to new stock motor mounts. I sized the motor mount stands to leave a more-than-adequate 3/8" clearance between the oil pan and the power rack at the closest point.

The blue car has an RRS front suspension, with the important point being that the motor mounting is identical to stock. New stock motor mounts identical to those on the green car.

Identical FRPP GT40 crate engines.

Identical WC T-5 transmissions, identical trans mounts, identical RMP crossmembers.

So in summary, every variable is exactly the same between the two except for the front suspension/engine mounting scheme.

No intake manifolds in place -- I am measuring between the deck where the intake manifold rests (front and rear) and the underside of the hood along the centerline.

There is no grille, radiator, condenser, etc. in either car, so getting accurate measurements is easy.

The measurements are the same between the two cars.

Forward and back is easy -- the shifter comes up through the hole in the exact same spot.

So there you have it. No matter how many times Fatman puts in his ads that "...adapting a Mustang II type suspension requires moving the engine up and forward..." DON'T BELIEVE IT.

 

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6T6coupe

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Do those engines use rear sump pans or does the front sump clear the MII kit?
 

reenmachine

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6T6coupe said:
Do those engines use rear sump pans or does the front sump clear the MII kit?
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Rear sump is required on the engine with the MII IFS. The one that comes on the GT40 engines is perfect.
 
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65mistress

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Hey Pete
Maybe Fatman's kits are the ones that need the engine to be moved up and forward?
 
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Yeah Pete,

Could you please remove the Heidt's front ends and install the Fatman kits then report back?

Thanks,
 

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reen, I sent you an e-mail.
 
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