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ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

Can someone help me build a 347 stroker. It needs to be strong but yet price worthy. I'm on a budget so anything under a grand would be great. Also it needs to be good for the street.

bullitstang1313 · Jul 15, 2005

DSS sells a whole kit for 1095.99. They might have some cheaper kits as well depending on what all you are looking for. Here is there site http://www.dssracing.com/. You could always try piecing one together from different places, but a lot of times this becomes more expensive and parts end up not goin well with eachother.

Daniel50 · Jul 15, 2005

chp also make a good one. i seen ebay stoker kit for 800.00 dollars also. search 347 on ebay

Grn92LX · Jul 15, 2005

www.adperformance.com Look at the scat 9000 kit. I run that kit in my car except I upgraded to better rods. I run probe/chp ultra light 4340 I beam rods. If you want to spend $1000, the basic scat 9000 kit is fine. I just wanted a lighter/higher rpm rod.

I'd stay away from the Egay specials

I forgot to reply to your PM. So if you have any questions, just ask on this post.

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

Is there any cheaper kits like around 800 or 900? Or can I build my own for around that ranger?

Grn92LX · Jul 15, 2005

The scat kit I told you about is $999. I don't suggest buying a junk assembly just to save a $100.

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

Which is better the scat or eagle? Isn't 11:1 compression to high for pump gas and everyday driver? Also how many rpms can those rods wind out to?

Grn92LX · Jul 15, 2005

No, 11:1 is not too much for pump gas or daily driving. Camshaft plays a role in that. You won't be near 11:1 though unless you mill the heads a bit and zero deck the block. Fwiw lt 1/ls 1 F body's came out of the factory with 10.5-10.7:1 compression.

The basic rods included in the kits are more than enough for you most likely. I'm sure they'll handle 7000 rpm's easily.

What combo are you planning?

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

Grn92LX said:
No, 11:1 is not too much for pump gas or daily driving. Camshaft plays a role in that. You won't be near 11:1 though unless you mill the heads a bit and zero deck the block. Fwiw lt 1/ls 1 F body's came out of the factory with 10.5-10.7:1 compression.

The basic rods included in the kits are more than enough for you most likely. I'm sure they'll handle 7000 rpm's easily.

What combo are you planning?

Well either the scat or eagle kit, twisted wedge heads, not sure which intake, custom cam from ed, 75mm accufab throttle body...ect

Grn92LX · Jul 15, 2005

If your starting from scratch i'd use a bit more head or run ported TW heads (if you can swing the cash) Looks like your building what i have. How high you wanna rev it? How fast you wanna go? Use the scat kit because the probe pistons included in the kit have reliefs for TW and in line valve heads. Run an 1 3/4" longtube. Unmilled TW heads and assuming zero deck you'll be around 10.3:1 or so compression.

88GT17MA · Jul 15, 2005

strong and priceworthy shouldnt be in the same sentence. The only guys I ever see pulling off decent budget builds are guys that have been doing it for years and have tons of friends that have been doing it for years to help them out with each aspect (finding used parts, doing machine work, having ALL the tools/knowledge, etc.).

Not judging you, maybe you are one of these guys, but if your not I would look to spend over a grand.

If we could make 347's for a grand or under, I think there would be a $hitload of 347's around here.

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

Grn92LX said:
If your starting from scratch i'd use a bit more head or run ported TW heads (if you can swing the cash) Looks like your building what i have. How high you wanna rev it? How fast you wanna go? Use the scat kit because the probe pistons included in the kit have reliefs for TW and in line valve heads. Run an 1 3/4" longtube. Unmilled TW heads and assuming zero deck you'll be around 10.3:1 or so compression.

No I'm not starting from scratch, I already have the heads. I wanna run atleast high 10's on radials. It needs to be street legal and street oriented. I was looking at foxlake's stage 1 porting and then getting the r series intake port matched to my heads. I might look to see if I could maybe trade my heads for a set of afr 185's. My heads are brand new still in the paper so I dunno.

90mustangGT · Jul 15, 2005

You buy cheap, you'll probally get cheap. It doesn't mean you'll need to buy some forged or billet kit to get anything decent. The Scat kits seem to have a really good feedback on them.

Don't forget all the costs. There is the stroker kit, then the other parts sucha as the 28oz dampener and flywheel/flexplate, and it's best to get the whole assembly balanced. Your going to spend some money, and what's cheaper. Building it right the first time, or building it wroing the first time, then having to build it right the second time?

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

90mustangGT said:
You buy cheap, you'll probally get cheap. It doesn't mean you'll need to buy some forged or billet kit to get anything decent. The Scat kits seem to have a really good feedback on them.

Don't forget all the costs. There is the stroker kit, then the other parts sucha as the 28oz dampener and flywheel/flexplate, and it's best to get the whole assembly balanced. Your going to spend some money, and what's cheaper. Building it right the first time, or building it wroing the first time, then having to build it right the second time?

Well I'm getting it built and balanced so thats no biggy. I think I'm gonna get it balanced to a 50oz so I can reuse what I have now. I know I'm gonna spend money otherwise I would be finishing up my 306 right now. This is a project motor so really I have no hurry I just am not loaded so I can only do so much at a time with such a price range. If I use my twisted wedge heads with r series or holley intake with custom cam could I hit 10's? My suspension will be built up as I have some parts waiting to go on.

ECU5.0 · Jul 15, 2005

there is a guy a couple blocks from me selling a complete 347 that hasnt even been put together for like 3 grand i think. brand new block, stroker kit, trickflow heads, trickflow intake, custom cam, injectors, timing chain, timing cover....basically put it together and drop it in and fire it up.

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

ECU5.0 said:
there is a guy a couple blocks from me selling a complete 347 that hasnt even been put together for like 3 grand i think. brand new block, stroker kit, trickflow heads, trickflow intake, custom cam, injectors, timing chain, timing cover....basically put it together and drop it in and fire it up.

Honestly if I had 3grand I would buy it but I can only buy parts by my paycheck weekly as I am 18 and only make $8 an hour. Ask him if he would sell just the kit?

Grn92LX · Jul 15, 2005

ms93gt said:
No I'm not starting from scratch, I already have the heads. I wanna run atleast high 10's on radials. It needs to be street legal and street oriented. I was looking at foxlake's stage 1 porting and then getting the r series intake port matched to my heads. I might look to see if I could maybe trade my heads for a set of afr 185's. My heads are brand new still in the paper so I dunno.

High 10's are possible. I'm hoping for high 10 second power out of mine. Although, i'll be content with low 11 second power. Its gonna take an aggressive camshaft and a bit more rpm. Porting the heads will make it that much easier and faster. If you don't mind dealing with some BS, look into the victor 5.0 intake if you port the heads. I run the slightly smaller tfs R intake though. I would NOT trade a set of TW heads for afr 185's. Put money into the TW heads instead.

Go 28oz on the balance and spend some extra money on an aluminum flywheel especially considering your goals.

ECU5.0 · Jul 15, 2005

ms93gt said:
Honestly if I had 3grand I would buy it but I can only buy parts by my paycheck weekly as I am 18 and only make $8 an hour. Ask him if he would sell just the kit?

i feel you man, im 21 and work full time and make 8.50/hour. ill ask him next time i see him. crap pay makes it hard to work on something you love

ms93gt · Jul 15, 2005

ECU5.0 said:
i feel you man, im 21 and work full time and make 8.50/hour. ill ask him next time i see him. crap pay makes it hard to work on something you love

Ya it definately does. But the good news is I got brand new twisted wedge heads for $850, and when I mean brand new I mean still wrapped in the paper, lol. Does anybody know who I can get my heads ported by? So far I see foxlake, anyone else?

ECU5.0 · Jul 15, 2005

i hate you, i wish i had 800 bucks in my bank account...EVER!

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