• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

Help me with carpet in my 83...

  • Thread starter Thread starter limp
  • Start date Start date Aug 23, 2024

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 23, 2024
#1
  • Aug 23, 2024
  • #1
My question is with which option??

Cut pile
Cut pile with mass backing
Essex
Essex with mass backing
The Essex appears to be a little taller cut pile..... I assume the mass backing is a better way to go for sound deadening...
Anyone else here had experience with these different carpet options??

As Always, thanks
 

Cheapskate207

The left one hangs a little lower
5 Year Member
Jan 12, 2020
761
541
113
Maine
Aug 23, 2024
#2
  • Aug 23, 2024
  • #2
I would go with mass backing. It does make a difference and as far as sound deadening goes it doesn't get much easier. Can't say about material, I haven't seen essex.
 
Reactions: limp

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
20+ Year Stangneter
Aug 25, 2016
27,904
10,558
203
polk county florida
Aug 23, 2024
#3
  • Aug 23, 2024
  • #3
If this is a driver, that is, not a 'show' car then I'd put a stock type with the good backing and some nice mats.
Actually if there is no dynomat or other floor insulation I'd put a double backing pad.
 
Reactions: limp

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 24, 2024
#4
  • Aug 24, 2024
  • #4
I pulled this from Rock Auto as I was kinda pricing stuff out, but its the same ACC carpet that everyone sells, Correct?
Its where the " essex " option for carpet is.....
 

nicholase

I lubed and pushed, until it was all the way in
May 21, 2024
629
1,123
103
New York
Aug 24, 2024
#5
  • Aug 24, 2024
  • #5
Huh, I was aware about the regular, or mass backing option. Never knew there were different grades of carpet.

I looked up the difference between cut pile and Essex and found this at AAC.
https://www.accmats.com/articles/everything-about-mass-backing/


Then looked up options for our cars and found this site where you can select mass backing as an option, and then select cut pile or essex. Seem to have much more more colors than I'm used to seeing. I wonder what dark slate is all about?

https://www.ocautocarpets.com/product/3296/1982-1993-ford-mustang-coupehatchback-pass-area/


I just got a new carpet. I wish I knew about this before. I got the mass backing / cut pile. Now my OCD is kicking in.

The mass backing is pretty much necessary. The only drawback I could see is some added weight, but for a street car I can't see that being a deciding factor. I've used non mass in the past (not foxbody experience) and it was junk. It always looked wrinkly amd lumpy. The mass backing helps keep it's shape, lay flat and the weight pulls it down even against the floor.
 
Reactions: General karthief and limp

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 24, 2024
#6
  • Aug 24, 2024
  • #6
I took a look at the ACC link you posted and ordered 3 samples
1. cutpile in Graphite
2/ Essex in Slate grey
2. Essex in black....

My concern with the Essex is I have had problems in the past trying to " plush " up things and having it be too thick and difficult to work with...

My 83 has a white interior ( seats Door panels, Rear Qtr panels) with all of the hard plastics and carpet being blue...
HATE the blue, but think the white might work OK here in Florida... I have been painting/dying all of the blue parts black ( the new dash top came black) and I " think " I want to go with a charcoal carpet.......
I remember some white interiors in my youth that had a black carpet and remember it looking pretty good....
Need to change out the seat belts to black or grey or Charcoal also......
 
Reactions: nicholase

nicholase

I lubed and pushed, until it was all the way in
May 21, 2024
629
1,123
103
New York
Aug 24, 2024
#7
  • Aug 24, 2024
  • #7
^ I'm interested in seeing the samples. I was wondering what the slate grey and graphite looked like next to black.

I put a black carpet in my red interior and like it much better. But I wished it was a bit less "pure black" and more like the color of the upper dash and upper door panels.
 

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 24, 2024
#8
  • Aug 24, 2024
  • #8
nicholase said:
^ I'm interested in seeing the samples. I was wondering what the slate grey and graphite looked like next to black.

I put a black carpet in my red interior and like it much better. But I wished it was a bit less "pure black" and more like the color of the upper dash and upper door panels.
Click to expand...
Agreed, why I think the Graphite is a good option.... will try to post pics of each one after I get em...
 
Reactions: nicholase

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 31, 2024
#9
  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #9
As promised some pictures of the samples...
Thick one is a piece of the stock 83 blue carpet the car came with..... I would guess almost twice as thick as the " thicker " Essex" carpet....
One on the left is the " Essex " upgrade, piece on the right is " cutpile".... What a disappointment in these samples....
Are there any better brands made????
 
Reactions: nicholase

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Aug 31, 2024
#10
  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #10
Here are the three color samples I ordered
From the left, Black, Slate Gray, charcoal.....
the black and slate gray sample are both Essex ....
 
Reactions: nicholase

nicholase

I lubed and pushed, until it was all the way in
May 21, 2024
629
1,123
103
New York
Aug 31, 2024
#11
  • Aug 31, 2024
  • #11
Do the samples have the mass backing on them? The ACC cut pile mass backed carpet I got was very similar in construction and thickness to the original. Once they put the mass backing and the felt stuff on there it's pretty substantial.

That slate grey is nice. I might have to order we a few samples to see how it matches up with the dark trim in my car.

Thanks for the pics!
 

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Sep 3, 2025
#12
  • Sep 3, 2025
  • #12
Resurrecting this post....
Has anyone installed the mass backing on the floor then installed new carpet on top of it?? read some stories of people saying that is the best way to do it???
I have a roll of some nice backing that I would like to use up... .. would like to install some sound deader, than my mass backing, then install the carpet... Any others who have done this???
 
Last edited: Sep 3, 2025

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
20+ Year Stangneter
Aug 25, 2016
27,904
10,558
203
polk county florida
Sep 3, 2025
#13
  • Sep 3, 2025
  • #13
When I put new carpet in the 'Dump Truck' the replacement didn't come with the insulation and I expected that, I've swapped a lot of carpet in days past, diesels get a thicker insulation pad than other trucks so I peeled off the old and glued it to the new carpet, also put in heat barrier,
 

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell
Mod Dude
Feb 18, 2001
43,249
17,932
224
Massachusetts
Sep 3, 2025
#14
  • Sep 3, 2025
  • #14
I have Essex hatch carpet.

Have some pics and such here compared to the OE carpet. With regards to hatch carpet, it was thicker than the OE carpet.

Build Thread Post in thread 'Mustang5L5's Build Thread -'

Apr 10, 2022
Got my hatch carpet.

This is the mass back Essex style material. LMR doesn’t offer this variety.




OE carpet on the top
  • Mustang5L5

It fit like crap and i ended up sending it back to ACC to get resized. They actually did a good job.
 
Reactions: limp and 85GT4V

Noobz347

Stangnet Facilities Maint Tech... Er... Janitor
Admin Dude
Jan 4, 1985
43,046
21,213
234
Box behind Walmart
Sep 3, 2025
#15
  • Sep 3, 2025
  • #15
Where is the [Progress Thread] for this car?


I don't even know what this POS looks like.
 

limp

wrap a little cheese around it and its a done
5 Year Member
Oct 4, 2020
5,466
2,899
173
Florida
Sep 4, 2025
#16
  • Sep 4, 2025
  • #16
Noobz347 said:
Where is the [Progress Thread] for this car?


I don't even know what this POS looks like.
Click to expand...
My EX wife would call you " mean" .......
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

F
Difference between 83-86 EFI and 87-97 gas tanks?
  • ForeverDrivin
  • Mar 30, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
5
Views
246
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Mar 30, 2026
ForeverDrivin
F
S
Upgrade Advice on an 89 GT Convertible NJ
  • SteakDad
  • Apr 17, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
10
Views
869
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Apr 18, 2025
limp
2
Electrical mayhem
  • 2000ElectricGreen
  • Mar 13, 2026
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
2
Views
267
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Mar 24, 2026
2000ElectricGreen
2
Sn95 new style hub retaining nuts
  • limp
  • Mar 6, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
4
Views
503
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Mar 7, 2025
limp
Drivetrain 83’ Glx convertible C5 Trans help!
  • JacksonJared2113
  • Dec 25, 2025
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
2
Views
383
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Dec 26, 2025
JacksonJared2113
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?