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Therian

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Hey guys, I'm looking to ditch the 460 and install some new stuff. I'm wanting to do a full MB Quart setup.

Here's what I have planned:

RCE-268 6" x 8" 2-Way 130W Components (power handling 60-130w RMS)
TWO (2x): DWG-254 10" 250w RMS subwoofers DVC
PAB 4100 4 channel amplifier:
- RMS Power Range @ 4ohm: 4 x 100
- RMS Power Range @ 2ohm: 4 x 150

Questions:

1. Is the amp powerful enough to run everything? I imagine I would use 1 channel for the left tweeter and woofer, 1 channel for the right tweeter and woofer, and then bridge the last two channels to power the two subs.

2. Would bridging the amp give me 600w to power the subs, or 400?

3. Would the subs be run in series or parallel? I haven't been able to wrap my head around everything yet, as I just started researching this 4 days ago.

I know an optimal setup would be to have one mono block for the subs, but at this time I'd like to stay with one amp.

Thanks!
 

ChingonStang

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If you just want one amp, ditch the 4 channel and run with a 5 or 6 channel amp. Otherwise, you are better off running two amps.

Something like this for example...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-SO7Uktt6d6u/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&I=108R5350A
 

Therian

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I haven't bought anything yet. I could see the 5 channel being a better choice if I wanted to run fronts and rears, but is it necessary for the setup I listed?

Thanks,
Duncan
 
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I would run a 4 channel, then a mono class D for the sub. That way if one amp blows you won't loose everything. The class D will run cooler than a 5 or 6 channel amp will. You could get old school kickers that have the blocks that link them together, to look like one big amp.
 

ChingonStang

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Therian said:
I haven't bought anything yet. I could see the 5 channel being a better choice if I wanted to run fronts and rears, but is it necessary for the setup I listed?

Thanks,
Duncan
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Your not running fronts and rears? That's gonna create a wierd soundstage.
 

Therian

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ChingonStang said:
Your not running fronts and rears? That's gonna create a wierd soundstage.
Click to expand...

Currently not enough cash for a set of rear speakers. I'd rather have the subs at this point, and add some rear 6x9s and a class D amp for the subs when I have more money.

I'm thinking I might go with the 4 channel, bridge it for the two amps (they will be underpowered) and use the other two channels for the components. It will sound better than the current setup (no door speakers, only tweeters and rear woofers), and will give me room to expand in the future.

any comments are welcome
 

JokerWylde

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I personally hate having rears in a car...best soundstages I've heard come from fronts only, or if anything, just a hint of rear fill. By running fronts only, I've found that you usually have a better chance of tricking the ear into thinking the bass is coming from the front as well, creating a more realistic stage.
 

ChingonStang

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JokerWylde said:
I personally hate having rears in a car...best soundstages I've heard come from fronts only, or if anything, just a hint of rear fill. By running fronts only, I've found that you usually have a better chance of tricking the ear into thinking the bass is coming from the front as well, creating a more realistic stage.
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I hear ya, but you need rear speakers though when you are getting busy in the backseat. Well...at least I do that is....
 

JokerWylde

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what backseat? I took mine out for the amprack
 

Therian

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I've decided to go JL for the subs and amps. It's going to cost more, but I think it will be worth it.
 

Therian

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I will also be deleting the back seat...the front passenger reclines enough...
 

ChingonStang

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Therian said:
I will also be deleting the back seat...the front passenger reclines enough...
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Not far enough for the Spider Monkey...
 
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