HID Lighting

mustanglx91 · Feb 18, 2009

I was thinking about a HID light kit and was wondering if its worth it, what kind to get, and any issues you might of had with them.

82CapriRS · Feb 18, 2009

HID's are deff worth it. if i were you i would get the bi xenon kit from americanmuscle.com. that high an low beam an they seem like a pretty good kit. idk if you get a choice of what color but i think they come in just 8000k which is mostly white with a blue tint. 6000k is pure white, 8000k is white/blue, and 10,000k is just blue an imo is way to blue. i didnt have any issues with mine, most kits are plug an play an the light you get from HID's is amazing.

RS200 · Feb 18, 2009

If you put HIDs in a reflector-beam headlight, you deserve to be shot. Do it right or not at all.

Mustang5L5 · Feb 18, 2009

mustanglx91 said:
I was thinking about a HID light kit and was wondering if its worth it, what kind to get, and any issues you might of had with them.

Sure if you don't mind blinding everyone else on the road because you think it's cool.

Browse HiDPlanet.com :: Index for some real HID conversions...not the cheap little kits you buy and put in a halogen reflector housing.

Adams91LX · Feb 18, 2009

RS200 said:
If you put HIDs in a reflector-beam headlight, you deserve to be shot. Do it right or not at all.

+1

Adams91LX · Feb 18, 2009

RS200 said:
If you put HIDs in a reflector-beam headlight, you deserve to be shot. Do it right or not at all.

+1

Mustang5L5 · Feb 18, 2009

Plus the whole point of HID's is the nice cutoff line.

GOOD HiD setup (this is actually an HID retrofit using HID projectors mounted inside a halogen reflector housing)

BAD HID retrofit kit (HID kit slapped in a halogen housing)

cenok is family · Feb 18, 2009

I have an HID 5000k kit in reflector beam halogen housings, I can see A LOT better and I don't blind anyone, you gonna come shoot me?

I definitely agree, doing a retrofit setup with projector housings is the best way of doing it in all aspects, but doing a plug and play kit in a halogen housing isn't first degree murder. just need to aim them so they aren't blinding everyone.

cenok is family · Feb 18, 2009

sure, there isn't a nice cutoff line and the light is more scattered, but I didn't put them in because I think HIDs are cool or whatnot, it's a known fact, factory fox headlights suck ass, even with silverstars. I'll probably end up doing it with projector housings later on down the line, but for now, I can see tons better and I'm not harming anyone

Pur Pony · Mar 2, 2009

like said above- do it right or dont to it at all. Nothing pisses me off more them someone blinding the hell out of me with a cheap HID kit.

82CapriRS · Mar 3, 2009

if you aim them right its no worse then any other light or people who leave there highbeams on all the time like morons. no matter what i would get them. its about seeing right? hid's will deff give you better visability so whats to think about? sure retro fitting them into a normal housing is the correct way to do it, but i dont really see a wrong way unless you aim them to the sky or just right to blind everyone.

MAC'n89Blckstng · Mar 3, 2009

I put HID's in my 89 with an Infiniti set up. I use the headlights with the cups that go in front of the bulb and I never had anyone flash me for my headlights being too bright. I say do it, I had 6000k and recommend that. 8000k aint bad but 10000k+ is just way to ricer.

fiveohwblow · Mar 3, 2009

What about the vehicles that come factory that way? I agree that projectors are the "best" but dont Toyota Prius' come with HID's and no projector?

Mustang5L5 · Mar 3, 2009

fiveohwblow said:
What about the vehicles that come factory that way? I agree that projectors are the "best" but dont Toyota Prius' come with HID's and no projector?

My G35 comes with a reflector style HID setup and it still has a nice cutoff although not as sharp. When i drive, you can barely see any light above bumper height.

Infiniti actually has a completely different headlight for the early versions which used halogen headlights. So both the halogen and HID were reflector setups, but they are designed differently. Side by side, you can see a difference.

Reflector HID's use a different bulb called a D2R which is actually painted over some of the bulb. It cuts down on the actual light output by painting the bulb in the areas that cause glare.

Most HID retrofits sold do not paint the bulbs like the D2R. They use rebased D2S bulbs which are projector-only bulbs and stick them in reflector housings.

Some good info on this page too

Automotive lighting FAQ - Headlamp HID bulbs

"The main difference is the U-shaped masking on the D2R that blocks out unpredictable light in certain directions. Also, the base has different notches. Name of base is P32-d2 for D2S and P32-d3 for D2R. D2R was developed so that Mercedes could still use their reflector based headlights in the mid 1990s. They did not want use projectors like BMW. A glare box inside the headlight could have been used to accomplish a straight line, but a mask painted on the bulb was cheaper to make and had better precision. Other (near) luxury cars (Lexus, Infinity and Acura) followed Mercedes and equipped their cars with D2R bulbs in reflector based headlamps. Using a D2R in anything else than a OEM HID headlight designed for the D2R bulb makes no sense. It will only reduce output. Some HID kits comes with D2R bulbs. Some amateur kit designers will even claim that D2R genrally reduces glare in a retrofit. This is nonsense. The D2R bulb masking is around 3-4 a'clock and 8-9 o'clock when bulb is in right position. Those are not the (only) sectors that creates glare. "

90lxcoupe · Mar 3, 2009

So does anyone have a how to thread on how to do this right in a fox?

1990Coupe · Mar 3, 2009

Pur Pony said:
like said above- do it right or dont to it at all. Nothing pisses me off more them someone blinding the hell out of me with a cheap HID kit.

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