I want to put this intake on my 94 gt, my question is the only elbow i can find is made by trickflow will it work? also found a kit from summit # hly-300-501-1 says it fits 86-93 5.0 ho engines why wont it fit my 94??
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Bosko5.0
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thanks i appreciate the help, now what size Tb should i look to get....i had my eye on a 70 but if the elbow 75 should i match that? or is there such a thing as too big because im just starting to build the motor these will be my first mods but i dont want to undersize them now and be screw later.
MattZ281LE
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tmoss said:
Heads/Cam/Headers.....thats what that intake needs.
A waste on a stock motor.
trav_19.... I have seen some of your posts....Your excited to mod the stang....There is a right and wrong way to do it. All mods are built with a plan and must work with the other parts you have. Otherwise you are pissing money away for a car that will run like crap and get raped by a Hyundai accent.
Whats your plan for the car? Ist it your only car? Budget?
I want a strong street car maybe a trip or two to the track every now and then but nothing full race.. not at this time, i have two mustangs a truck and another car so i have other stuff to drive not a problem there, i have a 351 block i had planned on building a carb engine and one of my buddies talked me out of it and said if its got fuel injection stick with it. cuz i was going to build a stroker but now im confused what direction to go with my engine??? all i know as of now is im getting 4:10's and a nos kit.
all i know as of now is im getting 4:10's and a nos kit.
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and
you are starting to run across them.
The great thing about those peeps is they are willing to help
The help they offer is based upon ......
a mistake or two by them or someone they know
which means ........
you can benefit from others hose ups
If you listen and look into the things they say ........
I will bet the biggest steak in Fort Worth, Texas ................
The advise those guys give will save you
Money ... Grief ... and Heartache
btw ... this benefit is used by ALL old time SN members
Just so happens one of those guys knows a bit about blowers
and the other ...
Well ... He knows a little bit about porting
94-95 :SNSign: Yeah Baby
we got it goin on Grady
my buddy has a set of winsor sr. and jr. heads that i can get pretty cheap hes running a 460 in his fox now so hes parting with his small block stuff what heads would start a good build up for a street car? some track time will be seen though... whats your thoughts on carbed to fuel injected? worth the headache to make the car carbed?
MattZ281LE
Founding Member
I would only go to a carb if I was making it a track car.
FI gives good streetability and unless you are familiar with carbs, as most people are NOT these days you will get overall better performance with the FI.
Take a look under proven combos. There is alot of good info there. Windsor Jr's I believe would work ok on a stock short block, I have no personal experience with them though.
H/C/I is something that MUST be matched for best results.
Do the gears and nitrous......Gears will wake up that AODE like nothing else. Nitrous will give you some umph at the track and will be good practice for more power with bolt ons and serious mods.
FI gives good streetability and unless you are familiar with carbs, as most people are NOT these days you will get overall better performance with the FI.
Take a look under proven combos. There is alot of good info there. Windsor Jr's I believe would work ok on a stock short block, I have no personal experience with them though.
H/C/I is something that MUST be matched for best results.
Do the gears and nitrous......Gears will wake up that AODE like nothing else. Nitrous will give you some umph at the track and will be good practice for more power with bolt ons and serious mods.
after i do my gears and nos where is a good place to start with building my engine should i buy heads first and build from there?
MattZ281LE
Founding Member
Look at it like this.............
Heads are good...........but do you have an intake to support them or an exhaust?
Heads are kind of a package deal....you need exhaust and intake at least with them to match the flow of your pretty new heads. This is a good time to put a cam in also.
I would save up and do the exhaust after the gears....good headers, mid pipe and catback. Then IF you can do the intake heads and cam altogether that would save mucho tear down and rebuild time.
just my .02
Whats your budget..the #1 thing behind all mods
Heads are good...........but do you have an intake to support them or an exhaust?
Heads are kind of a package deal....you need exhaust and intake at least with them to match the flow of your pretty new heads. This is a good time to put a cam in also.
I would save up and do the exhaust after the gears....good headers, mid pipe and catback. Then IF you can do the intake heads and cam altogether that would save mucho tear down and rebuild time.
just my .02
Whats your budget..the #1 thing behind all mods
The Windsor Sr heads are good heads, but not that good out of the box - they peak out at about 225/160 but some good port work makes them a real performer - but then your within the cost of an aluminum after market head. The Jrs are OK (~220/130), but I would pass on them unless they a REAL CHEAP.
all i need is headers ...i have an aftermarket h and cat back.. my budget right now is pretty little the ladys on maternity leave so once she gets back i will have a lot more money by end of winter i will be able to be around 2000...thats after the gears and nos so i will have that to play with for nowtryin to decide what direction to go i still need paint so.....
trav_19 said:all i need is headers ...i have an aftermarket h and cat back.. my budget right now is pretty little the ladys on maternity leave so once she gets back i will have a lot more money by end of winter i will be able to be around 2000...thats after the gears and nos so i will have that to play with for nowtryin to decide what direction to go i still need paint so.....
Since you already have a mid pipe ................
you most likely are gonna be looking at shorty headers.
I'd go for regular shortys and stay away from the equal length type.
Grady
final5-0 said:
would it be in my best interest to get long tubes and a matching mid pipe? as far as down the road goes because the mid pipe is older and probley could use replacing..?
Depends
If you wanna do just a few bolt ons, LT's may not be best for you.
If you wanna slam it down in the weeds, LT's may not be best for you.
If you wanna go h/c/i and the whole na thing then YES, LT's would be more suited for that kind of combo.
You are wise to think about the LT option since you are gonna be doing another mid pipe
As was said above, you'll be better off if you can decide on what you want from your Stang for a long term goal.
You gotta have a ...... Plan ...... Stan
I know its Trav
but
that don't rhyme
Grady
If you wanna do just a few bolt ons, LT's may not be best for you.
If you wanna slam it down in the weeds, LT's may not be best for you.
If you wanna go h/c/i and the whole na thing then YES, LT's would be more suited for that kind of combo.
You are wise to think about the LT option since you are gonna be doing another mid pipe
As was said above, you'll be better off if you can decide on what you want from your Stang for a long term goal.
You gotta have a ...... Plan ...... Stan
I know its Trav
but
that don't rhyme
Grady
If'n it was me and going buy your budget I have Tom port that lower...It'll add some nice mid-upper hit your loosing as it sits...add those 410's and that NOS and I think you be surprised how she runs..
Just porting that stock lower alone is a noticable gain once the revs come up..add some u/drives and maybe a better CAI and youll be amazed at the dif for not alot of money....Chit. you could do all that for less than price of the Holley intake and be ahead of the game...
Changing up to LTs/midpipe is gonna suck up a few dinero..you could drop 450.00 before you know it...
Just porting that stock lower alone is a noticable gain once the revs come up..add some u/drives and maybe a better CAI and youll be amazed at the dif for not alot of money....Chit. you could do all that for less than price of the Holley intake and be ahead of the game...
Changing up to LTs/midpipe is gonna suck up a few dinero..you could drop 450.00 before you know it...
yea long tubes are looking like 389.00 in summit... i do wanna lower it so looks like lt's are out after my 4:10's and my nos i found a c&l intake looks kinda nice maybe i will pick that up too what type of shorties are good? try and find some cc? or doesent that really mater to much with shorties?:SNSign:
i do wanna lower it so looks like lt's are out after my 4:10's and my nos i found a c&l intake looks kinda nice maybe i will pick that up too what type of shorties are good? try and find some cc? or doesent that really mater to much with shorties?:SNSign:No help here on the shorties...I run LTs...
I see you have an auto....I would gander the stock headers are ok where you are today...Maybe the money towards headers would be better spent on a shift kit/converter since 410s/NOS are on your list and gonna tax that tranny..
FWIW..the CC and shorties have no relation to one another...CC's come in handy if you really slam the ride...for an average drop, your stock CC plates are fine...Waste of money at this point of the game...
I see you have an auto....I would gander the stock headers are ok where you are today...Maybe the money towards headers would be better spent on a shift kit/converter since 410s/NOS are on your list and gonna tax that tranny..
FWIW..the CC and shorties have no relation to one another...CC's come in handy if you really slam the ride...for an average drop, your stock CC plates are fine...Waste of money at this point of the game...
