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How hard is it to swap to forged short block?

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GT12207

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Rather than getting a Kenne Bell 1.7/2.1, I think I'm just going to start saving for the 2.2/2.6 competition.

I have money in hand and I'm looking at MMR's Street Mod 600 short block for $2300, which is suppose to support 600rwhp.

My question is; is it possible for me to swap out my stock block and put in the new forged block in my garage? Any special tools required?

or is it too hard and I should pay for a shop to do it? if so, how much would labor typically cost for the swap?
 
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I think it's something you could do in your garage if you have plenty of time and patience.I am paying to have mine done and they quoted me $1400 not including gaskets,fluid,misc items.If your going to upgrade you may want to look a little closer at their pricing.It doesn't include ARP hardware or a high volume oil pump and it has a cast crank.I was going to get the MMR 900 untill VT ran their special for the sportsman shortblock.Take a look at it at VTENGINES.COM.
 

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saleen556 said:
I think it's something you could do in your garage if you have plenty of time and patience.I am paying to have mine done and they quoted me $1400 not including gaskets,fluid,misc items.If your going to upgrade you may want to look a little closer at their pricing.It doesn't include ARP hardware or a high volume oil pump and it has a cast crank.I was going to get the MMR 900 untill VT ran their special for the sportsman shortblock.Take a look at it at VTENGINES.COM.
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Get the MMR mod 900. Mine has been great. Best shortblock for the money.
I installed mine for 600 including everything. I even did the head cooling mod.
Mark gave me a hell of a deal on the 900. I got their high flow pump with cyro gears arp hardware and notched pistons shipped to my house for 3200. 300 was shipping from Cali to WV.
 

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Well, I'm choosing MMR because they're close enough for me to pick up the block and not have to pay for shipping.

How involved is the swap? I have plenty of time and patience if I do this myself. Is there a write-up anywhere?
 
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jivepepper said:
Get the MMR mod 900. Mine has been great. Best shortblock for the money.
I installed mine for 600 including everything. I even did the head cooling mod.
Mark gave me a hell of a deal on the 900. I got their high flow pump with cyro gears arp hardware and notched pistons shipped to my house for 3200. 300 was shipping from Cali to WV.
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They would have got my money but that is not the quote they gave me.Sounds like you got a good deal.
 
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mmr 900 shortblock is my next mod saving up now for it
by the time i have the money for my shortblock i will have my fuel system upgraded to cobra fuel tank and twin ford gt pumps that way once the block is in i can turn up the boost on my sq trim i am loving 8-9psi right now and i cannt imagine 18-19psi
 
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hey man it should be that hard deff looks like you can do it in your garage.
 

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stanggt00 said:
mmr 900 shortblock is my next mod saving up now for it
by the time i have the money for my shortblock i will have my fuel system upgraded to cobra fuel tank and twin ford gt pumps that way once the block is in i can turn up the boost on my sq trim i am loving 8-9psi right now and i cannt imagine 18-19psi
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Let me know when you get 18psi out of the strim. You'll wiil need an 8rib setup and you better get an intercooler or at least alcohol/water injection. If you use a intercooler I doubt you will see 18psi. Maybe with the alky/water injection since there is no restriction as you have with an intercooler.
 

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GT12207 said:
Well, I'm choosing MMR because they're close enough for me to pick up the block and not have to pay for shipping.

How involved is the swap? I have plenty of time and patience if I do this myself. Is there a write-up anywhere?
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Modular depot has write ups on timing the engine and all the torgue specs. Just take your time it's pretty staight forward.
 

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if you've never pulled an engine before, i wouldn't do it. it's alot of work.
 

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stanggt00 said:
mmr 900 shortblock is my next mod saving up now for it
by the time i have the money for my shortblock i will have my fuel system upgraded to cobra fuel tank and twin ford gt pumps that way once the block is in i can turn up the boost on my sq trim i am loving 8-9psi right now and i cannt imagine 18-19psi
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Can you run the SQ-trim at 18psi??? I thought it was limited to about 12psi? Wouldn't you need a T-Trim or something for those numbers?
 
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