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So I was scrubbing up the interior of my '87 LX and decided to steam the carpet in the hatch.

When I pulled it up I was reminded that there are four layers of jute felt in there; one is permanently attached to the carpet backing, then there are two more layers which are attached to each other with a layer of black sound deadening material, and finally a fourth layer between the spare tire cover and the double-layer sandwich.

Just curious if they're all like that. Seems unlikely.
 

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I have two THICK layers plus the layer that is part of the hatch carpet. It’s HEAVY. The cardboard is at the bottom but no layer between it and the hatch floor.

original as far as I know as the car was 100% stock when I got it. Been debating removing it, but nah.
 

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The ACC replacement carpet did not come with that much, although it seems like a lot. I am sure the factory felt in my earlier hatch was also very thick. I have been wondering if some sound mat material might be more effective and how much it would weigh. The factory spray on (tar or asphalt?) has to be heavy and a PITA to remove.
 

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My '86 has a lot of padding under the hatch carpet, so sounds like that was standard based on everyone else's reports...Mine has two 3/4" layers plus another 3/4" layer glued to the underside of the hatch carpet.
 
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Agreed , there is a ridiculous amount on my 93GT
 

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7991LXnSHO said:
The ACC replacement carpet did not come with that much, although it seems like a lot. I am sure the factory felt in my earlier hatch was also very thick. I have been wondering if some sound mat material might be more effective and how much it would weigh. The factory spray on (tar or asphalt?) has to be heavy and a PITA to remove.
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I guess it depends on what they were trying to address with the padding. My '87 has a material between felt layers #2 and #3 that is clearly similar to Dynamat or duct insulation without the foil backing, although the later Foxbodies seem to have the spray-on material instead.

It just seems so weird that between de-engineering and corporate cost-cutting, Ford would have put nearly an inch and a half of jute felt in there.
 

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I just removed all that in my car this past weekend to install a rear brace. Two thick felt layers, carpet and the board. I left the two layers out this time. Just have the carpet and the board in mine. Those things were heavy!!
 

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BlakeusMaximus said:
Those things were heavy!!
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They are. Maybe 20-30lb? No idea why I still leave it in my hatch. I also needlessly carry around my sunroof storage bag back there. I've never put the sunroof in there
 

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20-30 pounds is right. I’ll hang on to them them though. Not sure why. I guess just to say I still have them.
 
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I have dynomat back there too so add a couple more pounds for me!!
 

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This stuff @CtCarl?

 

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Your jute is nicer than my jute.

seriously. Mine is poor quality compared to that
 

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Hmmmm. I never even thought to check my jute!
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Your jute is nicer than my jute.

seriously. Mine is poor quality compared to that
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I didn't know it was called "jute." Yeah, Mike, both of them are all in one piece. I was surprised that all that stuff was still in the car when I bought it.
 

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BlakeusMaximus said:
This stuff @CtCarl?

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Yep, that's pretty much it.
 

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my 87 has 2-3 layers as well. I actually thought the po put it in.
 

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Now I need to go photograph my jute
 

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So even after multiple cleaning attempts, I didn't like the ancient original stuff, it was yellowed and generally decrepit. So I picked up a Mohawk Dual Surface Felt and Latex Non Slip Rug Pad from that big website named after a river in South America for $22. Same stuff I used under the trunk mat of my S197 to quiet down the exhaust resonance. This time, I got a 3'x8', so I could make two replacement mats out of it.

Then I just unclipped the carpeting with the top layer of jute stitched to it and took it to the local Wash Tub. It fit just fine in one of the medium-sized front loaders, but I was concerned that one of the "flaps" with the mounting clips would get pinched or damaged, so I went with one of the huge 50 lb machines instead just for the extra room. Looked like a handkerchief in there. I washed it with regular laundry detergent on delicate cycle in warm water.



To my surprise, it came out of the machine only slightly damp. A couple of hours in the sun and it was dry as a bone. The attached jute was a little "puffy"...that stuff definitely isn't meant to be machine-washed...but for the most part it's none the worse for wear and came out super clean.
 
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Looks like two jutes, and the jute in the oem hatch carpet.

 

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Mustang5L5 said:
Looks like two jutes, and the jute in the oem hatch carpet.

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Looks identical to mine, except one of them is actually two layers bound together with that black stuff that looks like tar paper.
 
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