I understand that C/C plates adjust castor and camber, but I really have no experience to tell me what exactly that would do for me. I am saving up for a Bilstein BTS kit (shocks and struts with some matched springs) and I was wondering how important C/C plates would actually be. I will eventually get them for sure, but would the in between time be bad or damaging in some way?
How required are C/C plates?
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streetstang03
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Most say if you lower more than 1 inch or 1.5 inches, you will need them.
I am one for overkill and would have them installed if I did any kind of spring install.
While you are at it, grab a strut tower brace.
I am one for overkill and would have them installed if I did any kind of spring install.
While you are at it, grab a strut tower brace.
streetstang03
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your tires might wear unevenly. I would put the new springs and shock/struts on and let it settle for ~2 weeks. then, go get an alignment and see if you NEED C/C plates.
Lastly, make sure the person doing the alignment knows the car is lowered and knows what he/she is doing.
StangPro
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Tell them you want a print out showing it's in spec AFTER being torqued down, and watch them that the print out is the last thing that happens before they pull the heads off of the wheels.
hognutz
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with the bts system you should not need CC plates for the alinement.
MM uses sphericale bearings so it locates the strut more positively so it does not defect under load and change your alinements settings. They will transfer more road noise on very crappy roads though.
short story long one of the main reasons mustangs handle so bad stock is all the flex and deflection build into the system. I don't know how much of that is in the stock upper sturt mount though.
the bts system is designed for more optimum handling so it only puts the car down about 1" so you dont' lower your roll center too much. springs like the H&R supersports I went with will negativly affect your handling a bit by lower the roll center. I hated the 4x4 look bad enough I just did not care. I know MM still recomends thier CC plates even if not needed for alinement so I would call them and talk to one of their tech people. They offer them with thier starter box that includes the MM race springs that only have a 1" drop.
MM uses sphericale bearings so it locates the strut more positively so it does not defect under load and change your alinements settings. They will transfer more road noise on very crappy roads though.
short story long one of the main reasons mustangs handle so bad stock is all the flex and deflection build into the system. I don't know how much of that is in the stock upper sturt mount though.
the bts system is designed for more optimum handling so it only puts the car down about 1" so you dont' lower your roll center too much. springs like the H&R supersports I went with will negativly affect your handling a bit by lower the roll center. I hated the 4x4 look bad enough I just did not care. I know MM still recomends thier CC plates even if not needed for alinement so I would call them and talk to one of their tech people. They offer them with thier starter box that includes the MM race springs that only have a 1" drop.
that's some hard meat to swallow..hognutz said:
don't forget the "from the factory" misalignment, they aren't really in to spec, you can have stock suspension and have a hard time getting it into alignmenthognutz said:
not much, the strut tower can withstand alothognutz said:
trailblazr81
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I have heard of stock Mustangs having trouble being aligned. And stock you cant adjust caster. With Eibach Sportlines I was at -2.4 degrees camber. Front tires wore on the edges. Would be great if was a dedicated auto-X car but not best for street driving. I could see the tires leaning in on top. So I can really screw up caster and camber with the plates. 
You really should get them and have a shop do it or like me install and drive straight to alignment shop!!
You really should get them and have a shop do it or like me install and drive straight to alignment shop!!
mity2
I like Pro3 and all I got was this crappy CT.
generally, anything less then 1.5 requires no CC plate.
BUT i would use them for the adjastability it provide
BUT i would use them for the adjastability it provide
reeber
10 Year Member
I am having mine installed tomorrow... I got the chrome MM plates... I am building my front in stages... I'll put the plates on, the get the control arm's / coil over kit.. Then finally do the K-member as I get the money together..
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