how to advance timing?

[tderrick]

I believe it's 10*, maybe 8*

 

[95mustang_gt]

well i advance it to 12 and then my rpm needle starts to bounce around 900-1200 is that normal?then I put it on 11 and the needle just moves a little bit.

 

[fork5o]

when i put my spout plug back in the timing goes back. whats goin on with that?????

 

[95mustang_gt]

anyone?

 

[HISSIN50]

anyone?

the puter controls timing. removing the SPOUT takes the puter out of the loop so you can objectively set the timing w/o the puter correcting for the changes you make.

as soon as you replace the SPOUT, the puter will dial ~10* right back in. the puter advances timing ~30-40* depending upon the conditions.

good luck.

 

[TheRedBlur]

yeah SPOUT stands for SPark OUTput control. meaning timing control.

 

[My95.0L]

So no matter what you do (without a chip or tuner), the computer will reset it after you put the spout back in?

 

[HISSIN50]

So no matter what you do (without a chip or tuner), the computer will reset it after you put the spout back in?

The computer will add its base timing back in as soon as the SPOUT goes back in. and the amount of timing it adds back in depends upon its mood.

 

[DFG 5OH]

so if my timing has backed off over the years, if i remove the spout and put it back in while running, it will reset it self back to stock?

 

[Labora]

For the orginal poster. If you have to get under the cars to see the timing marks. And you have everything setup correctly (timing light on plug wire #1) more then likely your balancer is FUBARed (as mine is). The 94-95 balancers are absolute junk so more then likely the outside has spun.

<-- To see timing marks correctly on my car I have to be under the car which means my balancer is off by about 180*. I don't know what my timing is set at now but it runs STRONG I turned it up till it wouldn't ping under WOT then turned it down a hair. Not the perfect way but when I get a new balaner I will do it correctly. (BTW 93 octane only if you are planning on running the timing so high)

 

[HISSIN50]

so if my timing has backed off over the years, if i remove the spout and put it back in while running, it will reset it self back to stock?

nope.

 

[My95.0L]

The computer will add its base timing back in as soon as the SPOUT goes back in. and the amount of timing it adds back in depends upon its mood.

I guess I'm stupid b/c I still don't get it. Can you adjust the timing or not? From what I gather here, when the spout goes back in, all manual adjustments that you have just made are now null & void b/c the computer overrides it back to stock.

 

[Labora]

I guess I'm stupid b/c I still don't get it. Can you adjust the timing or not? From what I gather here, when the spout goes back in, all manual adjustments that you have just made are now null & void b/c the computer overrides it back to stock.

Yes you can adjust it. You CANNOT adjust it while the spout is in.

 

[HISSIN50]

The computer knows its base timing is 10*. it will add in a certain amount of timing for any given situation (from tables). but if one adjusts the base timing, it will add that delta into the total timing. so one is not adjusting any tabling, but rather shifting the phase by messing with the static timing.

 

[My95.0L]

Got it now. Thanks.

 

[TheRedBlur]

in normal terms, you can adjust the potential, or range of teh advance. like the computer can only adjust so far, if you adjust it at idle, spout out, then that is the direct timing setting, then at like 4k plus rpm's the computer has more room to advance with.