I live in my moms basement

2000xp8 · Feb 16, 2007

Snikt89GT said:
Maybe you should just save your money for a down payment on a house

Thats' easier said than done in some states where property value is insane.
In NJ, if you aren't married it's very tough to get a house.
Literally nothing is less than $250,000, and that gets you a craphole.
So you must be a 2 income family.

So if he lived here, the few grand he spends doing that basement will be chicken feed towards a down payment.

I'm assuming there is no permits being taken out, if that were NJ, that would be a big mistake. As long as you pass it off as an office or TV room (basically anything but a bedroom) the codes aren't that hard to abide by in a basement.
This way if your mom sells the house one day, they don't come down on her very hard.

trav_19 · Feb 16, 2007

2000xp8 said:
Thats' easier said than done in some states where property value is insane.
In NJ, if you aren't married it's very tough to get a house.
Literally nothing is less than $250,000, and that gets you a craphole.
So you must be a 2 income family.

So if he lived here, the few grand he spends doing that basement will be chicken feed towards a down payment.

I'm assuming there is no permits being taken out, if that were NJ, that would be a big mistake. As long as you pass it off as an office or TV room (basically anything but a bedroom) the codes aren't that hard to abide by in a basement.
This way if your mom sells the house one day, they don't come down on her very hard.

i agree with you trying to fund a house payment on a single income would be hard and if you had a car payment on top you will find 2 incomes are a lot nicer...atleast in my case....but with all that knowledge your gaining from foing the drywall and what not you could get a crap box for your first home live in the nice basement fix it and flip it do like 4-5 houses and you can end up having your 6th house paid off...just some ideas

2000xp8 · Feb 16, 2007

Flipping houses here in NJ is done. How do you flip a small ranch that you paid 250k for. Nobody in their right mind is going to pay you 300k for a mediocre ranch.
My buddy in indiana, payed 100k for his ranch, in NJ money, you could buy 2 and a half of them.

The flipping thing was big here a few years ago, then it got too popular and everyone wanted to do it. It worked when only a few people were doing it, now everyone wants a quick buck, thus making the market for a POS house very competitive.

trav_19 · Feb 16, 2007

oh well i guess its all in location theres still tons of houses in michigan that need fixing up in the 30k-50k range

worknon10s · Feb 16, 2007

to start with I would have padded down the ceiling and out the walls to keep the pipes behind the drywall, I would have used treated lumber on the bottom plates of your walls, to prevent mold and rot, and I would have framed around the window correctly, No insulation needed under the stairs, you should have framed the door opening over more away from the stairs...so the trim on your door jamb fits, you dont need 12-2 wire, 14-2 would have worked., and you dont need all those blocks inbetween your stud bays, thats to start with, but thats just me

niklid05 · Feb 16, 2007

worknon10s said:
to start with I would have padded down the ceiling and out the walls to keep the pipes behind the drywall

Yea I know. I was gonna do that too. But my head would have been about an inch or 2 from the ceiling.

, I would have used treated lumber on the bottom plates of your walls, to prevent mold and rot, and I would have framed around the window correctly

No one reccomended treated lumber and obviously I didnt think of it. This was already a built room from the previous owner who was a policeman. It was a pretty ****ty job though.

No insulation needed under the stairs, you should have framed the door opening over more away from the stairs...so the trim on your door jamb fits

I put it there because I was planning on getting a portable a/c and heater. Just so I dont need to constantly run it plus I figured it would help with sound insulation, because they are bitching about my sound on my pc and tv being too loud.

, you dont need 12-2 wire, 14-2 would have worked., and you dont need all those blocks inbetween your stud bays, thats to start with, but thats just me

I already knew I didnt need the stud blocks.... I just put them there because my neighbor insisted on it.. So i said **** it and did it. I got the wire for free lol.

Like I said this was my first time doing this **** and it was pretty much design on the fly.

niklid05 · Apr 24, 2007

been a while. thought i would show you how its coming along...

just a side note I ****ING HATE SPACKLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id rather drive a few nails into my thigh than spackle.

all spackled and one coat of primer.

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I am putting moulding all along the base of the room. I am staining it "cherry wood." The walls are gonna be painted satin antique white.

The window is not done. I am gonna do that some other time lol.

wht93gtEd · Apr 24, 2007

niklid05 said:
been a while. thought i would show you how its coming along...

just a side note I ****ING HATE SPACKLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id rather drive a few nails into my thigh than spackle.

all spackled and one coat of primer.

it looks good man, but god damn...I thought I was slow on projects...from mid-february to mid-april you got drywall up & spackled?? lol...sorry man, looks good though!

93 teal terror · Apr 24, 2007

Looks good, but just a word of advice/caution....The Polyethylene will act as an air barrier, water barrier and vapor barrier. As a general rule of thumb you want your vapor barrier on the warm side of the insulation. Where you have it is fine if your in a cooling climate, but I would consider Pa a warming climate. Water vapor will condensate as the warmer air moves into contact with the cooler air. Which will usually cause some rotting of the wood in the wall and promote mold. Your only saving grace might be that the craft paper used over insulation also acts as a "smart" vapor barrier which can fluctuate in perms as it soaks up moisture. Another plus is it doesnt look like you sealed the poly so you may get some breathing out of it. Why would you use poly anyway? why not use building wrap or felt. Both of those are excellant water barriers which dont act as vapor barriers

ryan218 · Apr 24, 2007

damn dude...you sure are taking your time...could of had that done in 2 weekends if not less.

niklid05 · Apr 24, 2007

thanks for telling me now. Could have come over and done it for me....

iwashmycar · Apr 24, 2007

looks good though!!!

66stangbluework · Apr 24, 2007

worknon10s said:
to start with I would have padded down the ceiling and out the walls to keep the pipes behind the drywall, I would have used treated lumber on the bottom plates of your walls, to prevent mold and rot, and I would have framed around the window correctly, No insulation needed under the stairs, you should have framed the door opening over more away from the stairs...so the trim on your door jamb fits, you dont need 12-2 wire, 14-2 would have worked., and you dont need all those blocks inbetween your stud bays, thats to start with, but thats just me

you dont know that the wire from the homerun wasn't 12-2 to begin with if it was 12-2 and you used 14-2 you could have problems nothing wrong with going up a size, just as long as your not going down.

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