If you're upgrading your front GT brakes to Cobra brakes...

Bubba Z.

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...is it worth it to do the rears also? I eventually want to upgrade my front brakes with the Cobra brake kit (w/ stainless steel lines) and I'm debating whether to replace the backs also. The back rotors have been turned once, and there is plenty of pad left. Don't really care about caliper color or anything just want a good solid improvement over the stock GT's.

Is it worth it to spent the extra $400 for the rear kit? Thanks.
 
Well, yea, if you're road racing you probably should.

I got just the front cobra brakes and left the back stock. There is a HUGE increase in braking, you have infinitely more control over how hard the brakes are being applied, the pedal is very dynamic, it's hard to explain unless you've driven a car with really nice brakes before.

I've heard that the front do like 90% of your braking anyway, so the rear won't make so much difference, but, I'm sure it makes some because if it didn't, Ford wouldn't bother using them on the real Cobra.
 
I read an article before that cautioned the casual modder about upgrading brakes. It points out that our brake systems have a proportioning valve to apply the correct amount of pressure to the front vs. the rear brakes. This is a calculated proportion based on the front to rear weight distribution of the car, and the efficiency of the brakes. The proportioning valve ensures the fronts don't lock up before the rear, or vice versa. This results in the most efficient balanced braking, and the shortest stopping distances.

It continues by explaining that most casual brake upgrades are not what people think they are. When you upgrade the brakes, it takes less foot pedal pressure to lock up the front brakes or the rear brakes individually. Sounds great, right? Not quite. The front brakes approach lock up sooner than the rear ones since more braking pressure is sent to the front brakes. This has an effect of nose diving, which many people will interpret as "more efficient braking". In reality, the rear brakes are now less effective because there is too much brake pressure going to the front now. So instead of the four wheels doing their equal share in stopping the car, now the front two take more of the load and the rear two barely help.

The article summarizes that attention should be given to the proportioning valve when upgrading brakes. A brake upgrade should be done as a system, not just calipers or rotors at each wheel.

I'm just passing on what I remember reading... take it for what it's worth. Do more research if you're interested. Or just buy whatever parts you want.
 
I posted this question a while back and got no response...
I'm putting the cobra rear kit on my t when ever i get around to acually installing my new axels...is there any poin in putting stainless steel lines on the rear brakes? Does it have the same impact as in the front?
 
propellerhead said:
I read an article before that cautioned the casual modder about upgrading brakes. It points out that our brake systems have a proportioning valve to apply the correct amount of pressure to the front vs. the rear brakes. This is a calculated proportion based on the front to rear weight distribution of the car, and the efficiency of the brakes. The proportioning valve ensures the fronts don't lock up before the rear, or vice versa. This results in the most efficient balanced braking, and the shortest stopping distances.

It continues by explaining that most casual brake upgrades are not what people think they are. When you upgrade the brakes, it takes less foot pedal pressure to lock up the front brakes or the rear brakes individually. Sounds great, right? Not quite. The front brakes approach lock up sooner than the rear ones since more braking pressure is sent to the front brakes. This has an effect of nose diving, which many people will interpret as "more efficient braking". In reality, the rear brakes are now less effective because there is too much brake pressure going to the front now. So instead of the four wheels doing their equal share in stopping the car, now the front two take more of the load and the rear two barely help.

The article summarizes that attention should be given to the proportioning valve when upgrading brakes. A brake upgrade should be done as a system, not just calipers or rotors at each wheel.

I'm just passing on what I remember reading... take it for what it's worth. Do more research if you're interested. Or just buy whatever parts you want.
you can get around that buy using different compound brake pads front and rear(to a point) but it is unneccessary on any "Ford/PBR" upgrade on a 96+ car.
 
Arent the stock rear calipers the same thing as the cobra rear calipers anyways? I thought i read they were the same, but just had cobra written on them. I know the discs/rotors are larger though. I know they sell a kit to where its just different mounting brackets and let you uses the stock rear calipers but mount bigger discs.
 
Bubba Z. said:
...is it worth it to do the rears also? I eventually want to upgrade my front brakes with the Cobra brake kit (w/ stainless steel lines) and I'm debating whether to replace the backs also. The back rotors have been turned once, and there is plenty of pad left. Don't really care about caliper color or anything just want a good solid improvement over the stock GT's.

Is it worth it to spent the extra $400 for the rear kit? Thanks.


Unless you are open tracking, save money and just do the front brakes. Don't forget to at least paint the back calipers to match the front brakes.
 
spederman said:
Arent the stock rear calipers the same thing as the cobra rear calipers anyways? I thought i read they were the same, but just had cobra written on them. I know the discs/rotors are larger though. I know they sell a kit to where its just different mounting brackets and let you uses the stock rear calipers but mount bigger discs.


Yes, you are right. The rear calipers are the same as the GT/V6 calipers, just the caliper bridge is slightly different plus the pads are thinner due to the Cobra rotor.

Ford Racing makes just a kit. For $170 you get the rotors, brackets, anti-moan shields and dust shields and you need to reuse your GT calipers. They will work with minor clearancing to the bridge for the thicker rotor.

$170 for rear Cobra disks isn't a bad deal. That's 11.65" rotors and vented to dispell heat better meaning no fade

http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=egnsearch.asp&N=400070+4294922533


And here's an install article
http://www.2kgt.com/item.php?itemid=104