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bnickel · Feb 19, 2009

96 DOHC Cobra said:
Check these guys out. They offer the aluminum four-piston calipers talked about in the Boss T/A Brake thread. They also sell the integral power steering box kit and Saginaw pumps for our cars. Page 82 of the catalog.

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that's not a bad price either, only $150 for the standard black powder coat, more for the chrome

bnickel · Feb 19, 2009

Rusty67 said:
All that said, I think 1300 is a bit pricey. I think I'll give CPP a call and ask about their progress on thier box.

Rusty, did you ever find out any info from CPP on their integated power box? not that it will make a lot of difference to me for the cougar but if i ever find a 68-69 ranchero that info could be very useful, especially if i find one with manual steering

Rusty67 · Feb 19, 2009

Havn't had a chance to call yet. I'll leave this thread open in my web browser to remind me for tomorrow.

zookeeper · Feb 20, 2009

I got my new Summit catalog yesterday, and it had a conversion kit to use a saginaw pump on a small-block Ford. A little pricey though, if you ask me.

ForceFed70 · Feb 24, 2009

Here are the pics as promised.

Stock '70 pump and mid 80's fullsize pump side by side. The newer pump is much smaller.

ForceFed70 · Feb 24, 2009

Here's the custom pressure hose that I had built. They just cut the ends off of my old hoses and welded them to new fittings. I forgot to mention to them that is was a light duty application. They used the 3500PSI hose. It works fine, but the lighter hose is easier to work with.

ForceFed70 · Feb 24, 2009

On the engine:

ForceFed70 · Feb 24, 2009

I used the steering pump bracket from the donor vehicle with the stock bracket mounting points.

bnickel · Feb 24, 2009

hey when did you start running the EDIS sytem? i hadn't noticed you talking about it anywhere before.

hey do you still have your old FMX and convertor?

ForceFed70 · Feb 24, 2009

EDIS is new this winter. Haven't insured the car yet so I can't really comment on how well it works, but from what I've seen in the garage (starting, idle, reving, etc) it's certainly an improvement. With the turbo I didn't have enough spark energy above 5000RPM, I'm hoping the EDIS upgrade will fix that.

Yup, still have the FMX and 2 converters (performance and stock spec)

BarnStang · Feb 25, 2009

gonzothegreat said:
I also have a KRC pump, it works great

However, do NOT use the blue hoses!!!

Ya know, I read this and thought "gee, thats interesting, we put the blue hoses on two of our project cars with TCP power racks...they seem to be ok."

Weeeellllll, we had one of the cars out to swap the carb and swung it around in the parking lot pretty fast, so the steering was turned to the lock, and the hose blew off, sprayed power steering fluid all over the header and caught on fire! No damage, just flashed the fluid. Only a few seconds, lots of smoke, and lots of adrenelin...
So, hopefully this post will let anyone else who thought it was interesting to give it a second thought or two, if they have these hoses installed. Ours are coming off both cars...

Rusty67 · Feb 26, 2009

Called them up yesterday. I havn't heard back yet. I'm sure they will call me back when they have time.

Psydwaze · Mar 9, 2009

Just to be clear... the hose kit shown in the engine bay photo is not the same blue hose kit that is sold through Total Control Products. We supply high-presssure-suitable hoses and steel, field-attachable fittings for both the low pressure -10 feed line and the -6 high-pressure and return lines.

General info in regards to BarnStang's post: The blue -6 high-pressure hose, when properly installed with the correct field attachable fittings, has a burst pressure of 2500 psi. When using a TCP rack and KRC pump, under normal driving conditions (donuts included ), line pressure will generally stay under 400 psi.; well below the burst limit. Potholes, curbs, and such will give you line pressure spikes of around 1500psi or more, but normally not enough to blow off a hose.

Hose Assembly/Installation Instructions

Hose Kit Data Sheet

This picture shows -10 pushlock type fittings between the bottom of the reservoir and the pump intake. This is the only -10 line in the system and is the feed line to the pump, which is normally under vacuum as the pump draws fluid. Can't say if this install is right or wrong without specific info on the hose and fittings used. But, I can tell you that not all types of hose will work with a pushlock (barbed) fitting.

Lino Chestang
"Psydwaze"
Total Control Products

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