i found some more in door go carting tracks. there one up north for the seattle guys in Tukwila this one is off west valley hwy. the next one is the one i already knew about in vancouver off NE 3rd court and the last one is in tigard on hunzinker st right off hall. if you want there numbers or web sites just let me know and ill give them to ya. A three are priced very compeditively. i hope to set up some get togethers at these places soon.