i agree with points made,
Chris,
I liked how you just totally ignored my point and jumped striaght into yours.
Facts are.. you go the track and the fox is competing and winning.
The street isnt a field for competition (IMO anyways). I guess it could be argued that the street is grounds for competition.. BUT.. legal.. and REAL competitions are held at the track and thats where the fox is still alive and breathing well.
I take it you must not get out the tracks very often or something
To be fair, a KB setup for an 03/04 Cobra cost about $7-8k when you add in all the bolt-ons, beef up the rear end and tune it. This is in addition to a car that cost $25k. It's not a bad deal, but a lot of money for most potential fox owners.Unfortunately (and I honestly do mean that), I think it only helps my point. You are an exception, and even you are not much in the way of competition for a KB Cobra, a well-modded LSX, and are about even with the performance offered from a factory Corvette.
" the REPUTATION of the fox-body has degraded to the point that it is just an old car." ..... I believe this comment is proof of three things.
1. you're too convinced of your own intelligence
2. you love to hear yourself talk
3. you don't know jack ***** about owning a mustang or else you just plain don't love your mustang.
all of which leads me to 4.
4. please refer to #2.
every where i go i get compliments and all kinds of questions about my "old mustang". i can't count the times people have tried to buy it. your entire discussion, or argument as you would like it to be is useless. mustangs have lost no reputation, and they can still compete. they always will, which is one of the many things that make a mustang a MUSTANG. it's the only car like it. all this psycho-babble crap about what you could do with a mustang or another car is all loose ignorant conjecture. hell, if i flapped my arms fast enough i could fly. but am i going to? probably not. do all the numbers and specs make one car better than another? no. but for me, and most everyone else on this site, the mustang is the better car for me. for all your preaching, tell me how many cars do you think will have the same cultural impact as the mustang fifty years from now?
So Fastdriver you're telling me you've OWNED Z06's and you just decided to give that up because you just love Fox body Mustangs soooo much, but now you're starting a thread about how they can't keep up with today's technology, and then in the same breath you're contradicting me for standing up for the Mustang, while even still at the same time saying your Mustang WILL be faster...
I must have missed how all this makes sense. I give up.
LOL dude your car isn't that rare, there are at least a dozen 700-1000hp street Mustangs in my car club...and every one of them will at the very least hand a Z06 it's ass in a straight line. It is more rare that Mustangs are built to outhandle the Vette but it's easily done and without the brick hard handling you're talking about. In fact most serious road racing setups tend to be more on the soft side (Griggs is known for their "Old Blue" coupe, it doesn't even have swaybars).
It just sounds like you started something huge and you're trying to build a middle ground now but you're contradicting yourself at the same time. How many 1000hp street Mustangs are in the magazines right now that will eat a Z06 alive? Damn near every page you flip through is a badass 'stang and most of them anymore are build to handle as much as they are to go fast.
No offense man but you're sounding full of yourself now. Your car does look pretty sweet if that's it in the sig, but c'mon it's not rare.
The body certainly isn't rare, but where are all the other 1000 rwhp mustangs? I certainly haven't happened upon any during normal driving, meets, or at the "street scene" here in Columbus. I know that I'm no pioneer, and there are certainly plenty at the track, but on the street they seem rare to me.
Where is your car club, and how many mustangs does it consist of? Magazines have nationwide coverage, so it's not surprising to me that they find plenty of material. If your club is widespread, I could understand that statement, or if you live in a city like Atlanta or Houston with a thousand other members in your club.
Chris
i dont know of many 1000+ hp mustangs, but i know just my little town has about 5 mustangs pushing over 600 hp. Im not sure if that is really unusual or not since its where i have lived my whole life, but i dont think a mustang that can beat a new z06 on the streets is that rare. I know most you see on the streets could never do that, but i think there are enough to still keep some uncertainty in the other person.
WHooooo Columbus? Ohio? Dude i'm in Cincinnati! Look up Stangbangerz.com, we've got a couple thousand members and we do cruise ins all the time. We've got members all over the place but mostly around the Cincinnati area. You're right, they are rare but the simple fat that you yourself are building one, well that supports everything i've been saying in this thread right? Also i guess streetable is in the eye of the driver because some would say my car isn't very streetable and it's sure as hell no match for a Z06! Right now the founder of our site has a twin turbo 331 car in the tuning stages. Yeah he's building it to race but it'll be plenty drivable once it's done and i'm sure it'll peg the dyno at well over 1k hp.
someone please make this thread go away
Hissin....it was almost Gone for good...
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