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Installing Cam, I have some questions

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I'm installing my cam from comp cams into my 289 and I can't seem to loose the end play in it. Is there supposed to something that goes in before the cam? I have the cam, thrust plate, timing sprocket, and fuel pump lobe. What am I missing? Also no matter how far I pull the came forward the lobes seem to be offset from the center of the lifter bores, is that correct? Thanks for any help.
 
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Yes, the lobes are offset.

You should have .001-.007" end play, with a wear limit of .012"

Here's a couple questions- What year is the engine, and what water pump do you have?
 

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Its the early style 289 with the aluminum pump. The end play is way over limit at least 1/32 of movement.
 

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Is your camshaft gear the style that requires the C-Spacer between the gear and the cam?
 

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Realmongo said:
Is your camshaft gear the style that requires the C-Spacer between the gear and the cam?
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I'm not really sure could you link a picture.
 

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Try this series:

(The whole article is worth reading)

289 High Performance V8 Camshaft Retainer And Sprockets Photo 12
 
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Realmongo said:
Is your camshaft gear the style that requires the C-Spacer between the gear and the cam?
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I like to ask open-ended questions.

Funny thing, the Ford Master Parts Catalog, which rarely gives any useful dimensions, gives enough to make one.
 

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OK, I went and checked my old cam and the c-spacer was still stuck to it. Which means that the timing set I got with my cam kit is wrong. The cam sprocket has a kind of built in spacer, and its to thick. Would I be able to just use a different cam plate?
 
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duo_z said:
OK, I went and checked my old cam and the c-spacer was still stuck to it. Which means that the timing set I got with my cam kit is wrong. The cam sprocket has a kind of built in spacer, and its to thick. Would I be able to just use a different cam plate?
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Nope, you'll wreck the engine. Just get the right cam gear, use the spacer, and you'll be fine. The gear with the integral spacer requires a different cam thrust plate, and Ford deliberately used a different bolt pattern to prevent accidentally mixing the parts and ruining your engine. IIRC, that was all part of Change Level 7, which was a biggie.
 

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What it boils down to, is no matter what block or camshaft you are going to use, you have to select the right mix of cam gear/timing set (either uses or does not use the C Spacer),thrust plate (With appropriate style screws or bolts), dowel pin, camshaft bolt and fuel pump eccentric (1 or 2 piece).
 

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I checked the cam shaft and its just like the original part. The cam plate, c-spacer, and fuel pump eccentric are the original parts. I ordered a new timing set today, hopefully its the right part. Thanks for the help.

P.S. Anyone need a Comp Cams timing set?
 

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I solved my problem by buying the Ford Racing set that came with all the parts then added their fuel pump eccentric.
 
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