Is a nitrous bottle warmer needed in the summer?

351 82GT · Jan 28, 2006

Is a nitrous bottle warmer needed in the summer months, when it's hot out, or are they only for during the fall months when it's a little cooler outside.
I know their purpose is to keep bottle pressure at/around 900-950psi but was wondering if a warmer is need when it's hot oustide.

jrichker · Jan 28, 2006

As any compressed gas expands, it gets cooler. Having a bottle warmer keeps the temp up as the gas inside the bottle expands as the pressure drops. It also helps to keep the pressure closer to the optimum level.

mustangsally93 · Jan 28, 2006

Its for all year round

86bluecobra · Jan 28, 2006

i have noticed that i am faster in the summer then in the spring on the juice. currently i do not have a bottle warmer but i have one on order. I would have to agree that you need a bottle warmer all year round after all the serious racers have spare bottles sitting in warm storage so they are ready to go when they need them.

4G-KDMP · Jan 28, 2006

mustangsally93 said:
Its for all year round

exactly

Rick 91GT · Jan 29, 2006

Yeap, consistant bottle pressure is the only way you can keep the tune straight, 950psi!! Too much bottle pressure can get you in trouble and run it lean, too little bottle pressure sucks more air then N2O.

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

You guys are only running 950psi? I run 1050-1100psi. Always have for about 7 years now and it works great. Hell if you don't have a bottle warmer and your sure your bottle is new and pressure tested well, just use a propane tourch. YAH i know they say its dangerous but there are tons of us that do it, and it works just fine. Just turn the tourch on and movie it around the bottle and heat her up to the desired temp. NOT an Oxi acediline torch a propane small tourch lol just makin sure no ones confused lol

04sleeper · Jan 29, 2006

JUCD 5.0 said:
You guys are only running 950psi? I run 1050-1100psi. Always have for about 7 years now and it works great. Hell if you don't have a bottle warmer and your sure your bottle is new and pressure tested well, just use a propane tourch. YAH i know they say its dangerous but there are tons of us that do it, and it works just fine. Just turn the tourch on and movie it around the bottle and heat her up to the desired temp. NOT an Oxi acediline torch a propane small tourch lol just makin sure no ones confused lol

I don't think I would do ANY of that.

Sounds dangerous in more than one way.

Lemonade · Jan 29, 2006

JUCD 5.0 said:
NOT an Oxi acediline torch a propane small tourch lol just makin sure no ones confused lol

Propane Torch

Even though heating bottles with a propane torch is a popular method, it's dangerous and can get people hurt.

Aluminum starts to melt around 800 degrees and applying that much heat for too long in any one spot can weaken the bottle causing it to rupture. Think!!! We're talking about an aluminum (which melts easily) nitrous bottle filled with an oxidizer at high pressures and applying a torch (filled with fuel) to it - not a wise idea. Don't even consider using a torch on a carbon fiber bottle.

There are more reasons, besides the obvious safety issues, to not use a torch to heat your bottles. Many tracks have outlawed this practice and some sanctioning bodies such as IHRA, AMA/Pro-Star have as outlawed it as well. Those telltale scorch marks on a bottle may also prevent you from getting the bottle refilled at many locations.

http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticles/bottle-heaters.html

86bluecobra · Jan 29, 2006

i think buying a bottle warmer is a way better idea then torching. much safer. i realize a lot of peeps torch bottles but it doesn't make it a smart practice.

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

Like i said it isnt the safest and your right i wouldnt use it on a carbon fiber bottle. And when i explained how to heat it i said MOVE it around because your right heating in one spot to long could possibly cause a rupture. I dont think its a dangerous as everyone makes it out to be either. BUT your right it is a little dangerous. I know personally over 30 guys that use this method, just be smart about it and you'll be fine. We have cares in our group runnin 8 second passes. the slowest is a 11 second mustang. We all used propane torches. But a bottle heater is alot safer and i'd just go with that if you had the money.
And if you know anything about nitrous running 1050psi is better than running 950psi. But do what you want.

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

86bluecobra said:
i think buying a bottle warmer is a way better idea then torching. much safer. i realize a lot of peeps torch bottles but it doesn't make it a smart practice.

Well said!

86bluecobra · Jan 29, 2006

JUCD 5.0 said:
And if you know anything about nitrous running 1050psi is better than running 950psi. But do what you want.

I'm not sure if this statement is all together true. If your a/f ratio is correct for 1050 psi then i agree. If you are only running enough fuel for 950psi and you bump to 1050 psi then a leaning out issue could cause damage. It is important to tune your nitrous system. for more help on tuning N2O search through these forums. http://www.americandragracing.com/xmb1/forumdisplay.php?fid=26 mike canter seems to be a nitrous guru.

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

86bluecobra said:
I'm not sure if this statement is all together true. If your a/f ratio is correct for 1050 psi then i agree. If you are only running enough fuel for 950psi and you bump to 1050 psi then a leaning out issue could cause damage. It is important to tune your nitrous system. for more help on tuning N2O search through these forums. http://www.americandragracing.com/xmb1/forumdisplay.php?fid=26 mike canter seems to be a nitrous guru.

Very true, i correct my statement. For my set-up 1050 psi works better than 950psi.

86bluecobra · Jan 29, 2006

JUCD 5.0 said:
Very true, i correct my statement. For my set-up 1050 psi works better than 950psi.

your a real easy guy to get a long with do you have any pics of your stang i could see or video?

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

Thanks, yah i have a few pics of my Stang. Don't have any video but in a few weeks i'm running a 2002 TA when i get home. I'll video tape it for everyone here. Sorry i'm in all the pictures. I need to take some more of my stang. But here are a few and one is my trunk of my Vipers set-up. I have bottle heaters in the Viper lol

mustangsally93 · Jan 29, 2006

I like mine at 1000psi. But it sound reneck to heat the bottle with the torch. But hey you want to trash your car go a head.

It would be a jar head!!!!!!!!!!! Army all the way!!!!!!!!!

j/k

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

mustangsally93 said:
I like mine at 1000psi. But it sound reneck to heat the bottle with the torch. But hey you want to trash your car go a head.

It would be a jar head!!!!!!!!!!! Army all the way!!!!!!!!!

j/k

Trash my car? Hmm looks like my car is fine to me?
LOL all Jar heads heat their bottles with propane lol j/k
Army lol hooah

86bluecobra · Jan 29, 2006

i think the army is paying you 2 much money. geez a mustang truck and a viper? do you have cash for grocery's?

JUCD 5.0 · Jan 29, 2006

86bluecobra said:
i think the army is paying you 2 much money. geez a mustang truck and a viper? do you have cash for grocery's?

LOL i'm in the Marines not the Army and we don't get paid enough. I'm in West Africa on special duty assignment guarding the American Embassy. Not much fun here and not to safe i might add. We do decent with special duty assignment pay,hazardous duty, and imminent danger pay. Plus they pay for my groceries lol but i've been in over 5 years.

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