Is my gt a cobra?

89 ST4NG · Sep 29, 2009

Looks like a GT to me!

If im not mistaking doesnt a cobra motor have something that makes an upside down "U" beside the water neck that goes on down in front of the engine (oil cooler or something).

I really dont think someone would go through all the trouble to take everything cobra and switch it to gt! But hey who knows, I just have a feeling the vin tag has been changed somewhere along the life of it.

Looks pretty clean though man

Is the insurance any higher???

Chythar · Sep 29, 2009

That's definitely a GT from everything I can see. Agreed on checking the fenders, hood, bumpers and trunk. There should be a sticker that gives you the VIN number; you can see one of them on the passenger fender in the 4th picture above, near the hood hinge. Those VINs should match the door sticker and the VIN on the dashboard (visible through the windshield).

Here's a photo of a "stock" Cobra engine. I have prettied it up a bit tho.

That upside-down "U" is the Cobra-specific oil cooler, it runs coolant past a special block between the engine and the oil filter.

Now, I know that 94 Cobra 'verts were all GT's upgraded to Cobra specs (at least, the pace cars are). Any chance this is a leftover chassis from that "upgrade" by Ford?

snakedoc98 · Sep 29, 2009

If the insurance company called it a gt it would only be $43 instead its $76 a month for full coverage.

89 ST4NG · Sep 29, 2009

never thought about that "Chythar"

kinda funny how its the same color and same top color as the pace car.

they could have jus thrown some gt parts on it ... would that make this RARE? lol

snakedoc98 said:
If the insurance company called it a gt it would only be $43 instead its $76 a month for full coverage.

Thats quite a bit of difference ... glad they saw it your way!

snakedoc98 · Sep 29, 2009

with the insurance they actually didnt see it my way, I'm paying the 76 a month. hey Chythar is there any way to figure it out if this car was one of those pace cars.

Chythar · Sep 30, 2009

snakedoc98 said:
with the insurance they actually didnt see it my way, I'm paying the 76 a month. hey Chythar is there any way to figure it out if this car was one of those pace cars.

None that I know of. The 94 Cobra pace cars have all the Cobra effects, plus door decals, special embroidery on the seats and I'm sure several other things. The only way I know that these cars started as GT's is the various books and articles online.

Check the VINs like we've suggested, that should tell you if the VIN really is accurate. If it is, I really don't know what you have. I certainly haven't run into it before.

Mustang5L5 · Sep 30, 2009

Question is, how much deeper do you want to dig? What if you pull the VIN off another body panel and run it and it comes up stolen? Now you are in possession of stolen property.

89 ST4NG · Sep 30, 2009

i retract my previous statement then ... thats a chunk of change!

snakedoc98 · Sep 30, 2009

**update** All the vin numbers on the car are same.

Mustang5L5 · Sep 30, 2009

Then this is strange.

j_lutter31 · Sep 30, 2009

very strange indeed........

ProKiller · Oct 2, 2009

that is really really weird. that takes some serious effort to convert that much over to make it a GT. i would say call ford up and ask them to run the vin

Mustang5L5 · Oct 2, 2009

That things as GT as they come...but it has a Cobra's VIN all over it??

Even the door tag? Does it look like the door tag is original?

Chythar · Oct 2, 2009

Mustang5L5 said:
That things as GT as they come...but it has a Cobra's VIN all over it??

Even the door tag? Does it look like the door tag is original?

All the VINs on the car match, including the stickers on the major body parts (fenders, bumpers, etc). I could see if the door tag was not right, but the VIN on the dash matches, along with the others I mentioned. This one sure is a mystery.

Husky44 · Oct 2, 2009

Does Ford still own the database for these cars? I'm not sure where to tell you to look, but with vintage Mustangs, Kevin Marti bought the database for all the Ford VIN data. You can get a "Marti Report" for vintage stangs that tells you everything you ever wanted to know about your VIN #. He's also enough of a historian that he can explain some of the goofy stuff Ford's done through the years with our cars.

I don't know if his database covers 95s, but someone's got the data. This is interesting--it'd be worth doing some digging with Ford to find out what they actually did there.

snakedoc98 · Oct 2, 2009

hey guys, I called ford today and I also did a carfax report on the car. What ford explained to me is someone goofed when the car was build and put the wrong vin on the car. They said it means nothing other than its reg. as a cobra. so I'm thinking I'm going to convert it to a cobra seeing I'm paying for it right?

Mustang5L5 · Oct 2, 2009

Wow, so whoever bought that car new, was paying a cobra premium and never cared??

snakedoc98 · Oct 2, 2009

yup, the car stayed in the same family. The guy I bought the car off of didn't really understand anything about the car so I'm thinking his family didn't either. The only reason the exhaust isnt stock is because he didnt want to pay the cost of a stock setup (the cats went bad, cali car).

snakedoc98 · Oct 2, 2009

So I'm taking votes!!!! keep it a gt or make it a cobra?

89 ST4NG · Oct 2, 2009

id say keep it a gt and fight the insurance co.!!!!

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