Is Z-Max for real?

That stupid "kit" they sell at most parts places is such a scam. They include this sheet where you're supposed to document every single fill-up and your odometer mileage for X amount of miles or such an amount of time, and also show your mileage. Supposedly, it's guaranteed to improve your mileage by something like 5 MPG or whatever silliness, and this chart is supposed to show it.

When I worked for Checker Auto, some dude followed that thing to the letter and it (of course) didn't show ANY change in gas mileage. He came in raising hell because he wanted a refund from us. Of course, the guarantee is through the manufacturer, and all we could do was provide him with a receipt copy to send off - pretty much standard fare for anything like that (Wal-Mart and such do the same thing). He sent it off, then came back a month or so later pitching a fit because he never got a refund from them. We tried contacting the company, but long story short, they flat out refused to give him a refund because of some loophole of some kind in their warranty, like he waited more than 60 days after his purchase to submit his claim or some such nonsense.

Basically, ZMax is snake oil, and their company's a friggin' sham. I give it two thumbs down.

well if any one believes in z-max, the tornado and any of that other snake oil crap

I have this for sale, pm me for special internet price!

I always doubted that whole "It soaks into metal" line of crap, anyhow. Last I checked, most metals are not exactly porous (sp?) elements. Steel and aluminum do not "absorb" diddly-squat, so how the hell they expect their stuff to "soak into metal" is beyond me. If they'd made a more believable claim that it bonded to the surface of the metal, forming some kind of a protective layer, THAT I would be inclined to believe, but to say it actually SOAKS into metal ... c'mon.

well, metal is porous. most things actually are to some extent. certainly not a sponge, but it is. just a fyi.

Mustang5L5 said:

You ever see how much the Tornado costs?? I called up one time asking to buy one for my Viper. Well the guy said i needed two since I have two throttle bodies and they were $75 EACH!

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yea but the tornado works good though


what year is your viper

Mustang5L5 said:

'08 SRTZ-10!! Snakeskin Green FTW!

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is that really yours?!

do you really have a viper? I already bought a piece of that bridge from greensvt21. when I go to take delivery next week I wanna ride in that car.

holy crap! How did i not know you had a Viper!!!!!??? man stangnet mods must get paid well!!

edit: Wait a min! haha if you have a Viper, why are you complaining about the $150 thats gonna add 50+ hp?