I had sent them to a guy to have them restored...a dude named Ryan......it's a long story....he had them for 2 1/2 years and did nothing to them. A guy on facebook went to his house/shop and recovered several dozen sets of windows he was holding hostage that belonged to various people around the country. So, long story short, I spent over $100 to ship them, another $150 for work that was never done, ... $50 for the guy to recover them for me, and another roughly $75 to ship them back. THEN I basically sanded them, and used spot putty, sanded, putty, sanded, primed, sanded and finally finished off with SEM Trim Black.