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Junkyard TT Setup, Will it work??

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  • Start date Start date Sep 4, 2004

hemi_fan

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A friend sent me an e-mail with this cheap TT set-up for a 302 Windsor... is that the same as a 5.0? and would it work... well?

JYTurbo Parts List: Cost:
2 .63 A/R T03 Turbochargers
(one from a 85 Thunderbird turbo coupe and the other is off of a 86 Mustang SVO) $175.00
1 Set of Flowtech 1 5/8's Shorty headers (New) $130.00
3 Foot of 2.5 inch pipe (connects the header to the turbo) $15.00
2 T03 turbo exuast flanges (homemade) $0.00
2 T03 turbo exuast flange gaskets (homemade) $0.00
2 90 deg electrical conduit pieces ((plumbing) one on each compressor side of the turbo) $18.00
1 6 foot stick of 2 inch conduit pipe (more compressor side plumbing) $12.00
1 Flowmaster 2 into one (two 2.5 inch input to one 3" output this ties the turbo's together) $45.00
Misc Silicone hose and clamps $30.00
3" mandrel bend pipe for intake plumbing (purchased a box FULL at the local semi junkyard) $25.00

Total Cost of the homemade JY Twin Turbo kit $450.00


Other parts needed for this project:
75 Pro M mass air meter and 8 36psi injectors (used) $300.00
255 Walbro intake pump $90.00

Total of other needed parts $390.00

Optional parts on this Motor:
TFS-R intake $450.00
F303 Cam $120.00
Edelbrock 6037 heads 1.90 intake 160 exuast valves $950.00
Adj. Fuel pressure Reg. $ 45.00
Just a note:
Stock fuel rails
Stock Throttle body
Stock Valvetrane
Stock bottom end with 140k miles (I did replace the crank with a remain autozone crank)
Stock suspension



Performance to date 7.02@104.60mph 1/8 should be good for high 10's@130mph in the 1/4

source:
http://www.geocities.com/windsor_302/TurboPartslist.html
 

houstonstangguy

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will it work? sure it will but do you have the welding expertise to do all the work yourself? if not then labor is a *****!!!

the jytt can be a good setup if done right. ive seen the setups sold for 1200 with all the welding done already.
 

FrdMustangCpe

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i dont see why it wont work. how big is the turbo off of a ford super duty. you might wanna get your hands on those. they might be bigger.
 
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SmockDoiley

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Bigger is not always better. Use automatic 4-cyl. turbos for a stock 302, and the manual 4-cyl turbos for a modded 302.
 

FrdMustangCpe

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SmockDoiley said:
Bigger is not always better. Use automatic 4-cyl. turbos for a stock 302, and the manual 4-cyl turbos for a modded 302.
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can you elabarate on that, wouldnt a bigger turbo move more air=more boost.
 

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http://turbomustangs.com/

IT's been done plenty of times.
 

SLOW 97

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FrdMustangCpe said:
can you elabarate on that, wouldnt a bigger turbo move more air=more boost.
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Yes, but big turbos take FOREVER to spool up. The car would a turd off the line until you start making boost.The key is a hybrid TT setup which is one big turbo and one smaller one. That way you kinda get the best off both worlds. Off the line and big boost in the upper RPM range.
 

FrdMustangCpe

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SLOW 97 said:
Yes, but big turbos take FOREVER to spool up. The car would a turd off the line until you start making boost.The key is a hybrid TT setup which is one big turbo and one smaller one. That way you kinda get the best off both worlds. Off the line and big boost in the upper RPM range.
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now it makes sense. that hybrid tt sounds wicked
 

stockhatch

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You mean a sequential setup? Too much plumbing and hassle. Toss a couple T3s on there and it'll spool faster than you can say "no traction", and it'll make enough power to split the block.

AC
 

BlackFox5.0

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SLOW 97 said:
Yes, but big turbos take FOREVER to spool up. The car would a turd off the line until you start making boost.The key is a hybrid TT setup which is one big turbo and one smaller one. That way you kinda get the best off both worlds. Off the line and big boost in the upper RPM range.
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A hybrid turbo is 2 turbos taken apart, then mixed pieces to make one better turbo. I very popular Hybrid would be a T3/T4 hybrid. It utilizes the turbine and center section of a T3, and the backing plate/compressor housing and impeller of a T4.

Having small turbos will yeild better low end, but topend will suffer. You'll also have to factor in heat. the more boost you run the hotter the charge will be. I'd love to put a single T06 in my car in the future
 

stockhatch

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I would go with an HX35 or HX40 Holset single on a blow-through carb setup. Cheap and makes big power. And do yourself a favor and if you DO turbo your car, buy a decent set of heads. Stockers SUCK with boost.

AC
 
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seijirou

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Yeah it'll work
www.toohighpsi.com

I'm building a JYTT setup myself at the moment. Using turbos off the old Nissan 300zx before they were twin turbo. There is no need for a T3/T4 Hybrid on a 302, it's more turbo than the engine needs. A pair of T3 .48a/r to .60a/r is plenty of turbo. Although I would recommend the .60's because the slightly longer spool time will let you get somesort of traction. Power you can't plant won't do you any good.

There is alot of work involved in this project however. The plubming placement and mounting of everything is rather tricky. You have to be very maticulous and good to pull it off without needing to cut up your engine bay or bumper cover. Especially if you plan on running an intercooler. It gets even worse if you want to keep A/C and run coolant lines to the turbos aswell as oil lines. Do your homework on properly running the oil lines and the right way to drain the oil into the oil pan. There are also small things that many people forget that you will need, such as check valves for many of your vaccume lines, breather cap for your valve cover, flexible linkage in the intake tubing, air filters, turbo timer, ect. ect.

There is no such thing as a TT project done right that is cheap, but if you do your homework, be patient, posess certain skills or have friends who do, and are willing to work hard instead of have others work for you, and think hard instead of having others think for you. You can defanently put together a great TT setup that will be significantly less expensive, and as icing on the cake more flexible to change, than any kit you can buy.

Best of luck
 
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