Just not having good luck...

reeber

reeber

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Mar 10, 2004
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#1
Well, I put the smaller 2.80 pulley on the car and also replaced my ignition lock cylinder. I do not have the anti theft chip that some stangs have, but when I start the car, it runs for about 5 seconds, then shuts itself off. So, now I have to tow the car to the dealer to update the PATS system in my computer. Can't wait to see how much they charge! Now I am scared to death that the mechanics are gonna "test" drive it after it's fixed. I hate giving my car to people I don't know.
 
#2
are you taking it to Holman Ford?
if so tell the service advisor you want Dave Pfeiffer to work on your car. He is a good friend of mine and one of their top tech with 12yrs ex. He helps me with my car. Just tell him Bob with the dark green 96 vert sent you. I will call him and give him a heads up if you'd like. He will not beat your car is I tell him your a friend.
 
#7
ADRENLN said:
reeber, did you take care of the leak? so your switch to the smaller pully caused your current problem? :shrug:
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Actually, I replaced the ignition lock cylinder (the old one was worn out and you could take the key out of the ignition and the car would still run), but didn't realize that I had to update the PATS system. The car would start, but then immediately shut off.

The leak is coming from both valve cover gaskets. It's a minor leak, but I am going to replace both of them.

The smaller pulley is on, but since the car wouldn't start, we couldn't tune it. That'll happen when Holman Ford gets done doing thier thing.
 
#8
droptopponynj said:
I gave Dave a call and he said he'll take care of it. They usually bring the mustangs to him anyway, he's the aftermarket specialist.
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I went up there to clarify not to test the car at WOT due to not having a proper tune with the new pulley I put on the car. The service guy was kind of dick at the front. Lloyd is the one I was supposed to talk to, but he was off today. This other guy assured me that all of his mechanics are qualified to handle a "simple" PATS update and should be done today. I forget the guy I talked to's name. Kind of a dick though. He got frustrated at me for explaining how important it is not to drive the car. I look at it this way. I spent almost $30K on the car's engine. I don't need someone else to break it. I am sure everyone here would to... Anyway THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!!! Hopefully, Dave will still do the work, even though he wasn't on my service advisor's team. Thanks again Bob!
 
#9
So, got the call that the PATS system was updated with my new keys... I went up there to pick the car up after service hours... They car wouldn't start... It's no different than before I had it towed there... So, I have to wait til tomorrow to rip Holman's service department apart. They didn't even have Dave do the work... I blame it on Bill, the service rep. He is not a very nice guy.. So, I am personally going there tomorrow to supervise the work. Am I being too anal?
 
#10
You are in a tough position mang. Non-enthusiasts just don't understand and it usually makes things worse trying to explain it to them :notnice:

To those douchebags you are just another anal, irrational Mustang owner.

Hopefully droptopponynj will be able to help you out...

And no, I do not think you are being anal in expecting your car to be treated with the same level of respect that you yourself treat it with.
 
#11
That sucks! Daves old service rep just recently left to work at Jonathan motors on 73 out near you. I haven't met the new guy yet....I won't let anyone else work on my car their cause I just don't trust anyone.

So it still won't start? Was it working for them when they called you? I had this happen to me 2 days after I bought my car, I was removing the stock radio/speakers and cut the wires in the door to the stock tweeters and this somehow triggered my PATS and the car would not start so I had it towed in. They told me that there is a reset button and thats all that had to be pressed. I never bothered to look for it since it never happened again. Hopefully thats all that is wrong with yours now....
 
#12
droptopponynj said:
That sucks! Daves old service rep just recently left to work at Jonathan motors on 73 out near you. I haven't met the new guy yet....I won't let anyone else work on my car their cause I just don't trust anyone.

So it still won't start? Was it working for them when they called you? I had this happen to me 2 days after I bought my car, I was removing the stock radio/speakers and cut the wires in the door to the stock tweeters and this somehow triggered my PATS and the car would not start so I had it towed in. They told me that there is a reset button and thats all that had to be pressed. I never bothered to look for it since it never happened again. Hopefully thats all that is wrong with yours now....
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Yeah, this Bill guy is a royal dick... I was just telling my girlfriend that I am considering going up there and choking him. He called this morning at 7:45 to tell me that it "wasn't thier problem". He said, "We are only to program the PATS keys YOU provided". "I was never told to get the car to run.". However, I did tell him that the whole reason the car isn't running is because of the PATS system. He said he'd speak with the mechanic and call me back. He just doesn't have the patience to listen to me. I found the car with the negative battery terminal disconnected. So, I reconnected it, put my Diablo chip in it and tried to turn it over. He's now blaming me for "changing the chip". He says that will screw everything up. The PATS system has nothing to do with the chip. It's a computer re-flash. That's it... Can you tell I am frustrated?!
 
#13
You may or may not have a problem with that chip. I am not saying the guy is not exactly as you stated, but if the PATS was done and your car doesn't run correctly, there is something else. If they troubleshoot and find a problem, fix it and charge you $1000.00 you would be pissed off about that too. Look at it from there side also. You have a pretty heavily modded car.
I don't know why they didn't call you and ask more about the car if it wouldn't crank. Don't make to big of a$$ of yourself until you know exactly whats going on. You may burn a bridge and it was something else all along.

15-20 years ago I would have gone right in fighting.
 
#17
forpit2000gt said:
Did you give Bill a hug and tell him you were sorry you called him a
D!*k ???? :rolleyes: :rlaugh:
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:lol:

you should have drop kicked bill and threw him in the dumpster. :D Glad to hear the pats is ok but it sucks that your chip is bad. When I talk to my buddy i'll tell him bill wasn't very helpful and was kinda smug and short. Does Radical have SCT yet? I'm not a big fan of Diablo. As soon as I get the rest of my parts for my cams and heads i'm going to need a tune and I was hoping Craig was an SCT dealer cause he's the closest.
 
#18
reeber glad to hear everything worked out. ford dealers are a pita. im supprised that holman even looked at it, they gave me trouble and i dont have near as many mods as you.

too bad you chip is bad :rolleyes: dumb asses!
 
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