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z2o_what

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im running d0oe 351 heads on my current engine. i reseated the valves (valve gring and drill) myself. the heads do not have hardened seats, and i have been using a lead additive. so far i have over 200 miles on engine with no problems.

so... should it be safe using just the additive or am i going to run into valve seat problems down the road (so to speak)?
 

z2o_what

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ttt
 

samickguy15

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From what I understand, if you are going to beat on the motor pretty hard you should get hardened seats. If you are using it as a street car with an occassional race, you should be fine. If I were you, and had the money, I would get hardened seats put in.
 

montegoman351

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I read on Lucas oil's website that the fuel additive they make can double as a lead substitute. I ran it for a long time, before I rebuilt the engine, and the insides of the engine were pretty clean.
But this was on a 135,000 mile cleveland, so the valves were starting to recess anyway, since I only only drove the car for 30,000 miles before the cam bearing babbit snuck past the oil pump screen, and needless to say, I totally redid the engine.
 

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whoops, i pushed the button twice
 

65ShelbyClone

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A stock cam and heads with soft seats and unleaded gas will last around 60,000-80,000mi before the sealing goes away. With a lumpy cam, expect the valves to pound out and sink much faster. I had some 289 heads sink a few valves in about 12,000 miles with a mild(~.475) hydraulic flat cam. They were replaced with E7s and no more problems.

My point is that it will be more economical in the long run to get hard seats.
 
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