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UrbanRedneck

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lightblade said:
Umm its matter can not be created nor destroyed, energy is totatly different
A power inverter would work, your alternator is not going to spin any faster so your not going to loose anypower. You could burn up your alternator because of the load depends on the wattage of the leaf blower. With that being said this is still a horrible ideal, btw if u get a blower or fan anywhere near your intake filter or maf the car is going to shut off.
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Never heard of conservation of energy? Energy changes forms, it is never destroyed or created. Example. your gasoline contains chemical energy, which is turned into heat energy in the cumbustion process, which is turned into kinetic energy as the engine moves the car, which is turned into heat energy again as the brakes slow the car down. Obviously there are a lot of other energy conversions going on throughout that time but that is the basics. Industrial physics, which invovles energy, heat, and hydraulic physics, was a requirement for my automotive degree.

Now, the alternator's load on the engine is not based on speed. the more current that is drawn from the charging system, the harder it is to mechanically turn the alternator. This is because the alternators stator (or is it reluctor? I always mix these two up) is an electromagnet that is given varying votages to change the strenth of it's magnetic field. The stronger the field, the more resitance to rotation it puts as it rotates inside the coils, but the more energy is transfered from mechanical to electrical in the process. Alternator field voltage is controlled by the voltage regulator, when voltage drops in the system, indicating a current draw, the regulator increases field voltage to increase alternator output current. If you full-field an alternator they can often make as much as 70 volts (this is how on-board welders for off-roaders work, they isolate the charging system, raise the idle, and full-field the alternator to weld things). So, to put it basically, the more current drawn from the alternator, the more mechanical resitance is put on the engine. It's easy to tell in a small car with a small engine, turn on the rear defroster and note the engine will drop it's idle speed for a split second. Or take an alternator on a bench, turn the pulley and I bet it turns easy. Give it a field voltage and I bet you can't even turn it.
 

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klaw said:




I think my dentist did that once!
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two totally different types of nitrous

one makes you laugh

the other one makes your lungs collapse on themselves... but... it does help add horsepower

 

NastyStang113

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ilovemynintendo said:
the other one makes your lungs collapse on themselves... but... it does help add horsepower
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Sounds like a bad case of a smoker's lungs.
 
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klaw said:
neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed (matter and energy are related: E=mc^2)
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Both can be destroyed and created. If a particle meets its anti-particle (electron and positron, proton and antiproton, neutron and antineutron) they will annihilate each other and give off the energy describe in Einstein's equation that you posted, though gamma should be added to account for special relativity. Thus, you destroy matter and create energy. We have done this.

Oh the other had, if you have two or more photons of precisely the correct total energy (again as stated in Einsteins equation) that collied they can form a particle or particles. Destroying energy and creating matter. I believe we have done this.

Generally speaking though, both mass and energy are conserved, as is momentum as long as you are calculating it from an inertial reference frame.

I was thinking that if you wanted to do this at a drag strip with a short belt, you could hook up a high torque eclectic motor to a centrifugal supercharger with the right pulleys to get it in it's peak range. Thus boost with no parasitic power loss.
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o0Dan0o said:
Both can be destroyed and created. If a particle meets its anti-particle (electron and positron, proton and antiproton, neutron and antineutron) they will annihilate each other and give off the energy describe in Einstein's equation that you posted, though gamma should be added to account for special relativity. Thus, you destroy matter and create energy. We have done this.

Oh the other had, if you have two or more photons of precisely the correct total energy (again as stated in Einsteins equation) that collied they can form a particle or particles. Destroying energy and creating matter. I believe we have done this.

Generally speaking though, both mass and energy are conserved, as is momentum as long as you are calculating it from an inertial reference frame.

I was thinking that if you wanted to do this at a drag strip with a short belt, you could hook up a high torque eclectic motor to a centrifugal supercharger with the right pulleys to get it in it's peak range. Thus boost with no parasitic power loss.
Dan
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OK - Maybe I'll just make this simple so we don't start discussing the practicality of mounting a supercollider on a mustang: The leaf blower supercharger is an idiot idea that has no practical application.
 
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A supercollider huh?...hmmm so a co-worker and I were discussing the idea of mounting one of these lol...j.k. Ok got it though leafblower isn't a good idea.
 
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OK - Maybe I'll just make this simple so we don't start discussing the practicality of mounting a supercollider on a mustang: The leaf blower supercharger is an idiot idea that has no practical application.
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Come on man, how often do I get to be all physicsy on a mustang message board? Like almost never, let me have my fun...
 

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Come on man, how often do I get to be all physicsy on a mustang message board? Like almost never, let me have my fun...
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It's great for dyno numbers for Civic SIs though !!!
 
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