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MrKwik

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I recently purchased a longblock out of an 85gt 5 speed. I bought it mainly for parts like brackets, misc weirrd bolts and BS that I needed for the 306 I built for my 93 convertible. The guy said it ran but that it probably had a spun bearing because it lost pressure. He also said that the heads had been redone right before the motor was pulled out of the car. I tore it down and the heads are totally clean and do look fresh. And all the bearings and stuff in the bottom end looks good so Im guessing the pump is bad or he had a gauge issue. The motor has no ridge at all and it has the original forged flat top pistons in it.

Basically Im wondering if there is any reason I shouldnt use this motor in my 86. The 86 motor has 342K on it and I know the 86's had a goofy head/piston combo that prevents using the later heads or aftermarket heads without piston work. I dont really know anything about the 85 motors so Im trying to find out if the pistons have issues if you use the later model heads or anything like that. Also, how are the heads on the 85's? Are they as good as the E7TE heads or are they crap like the 86 heads? I figure I will just freshen it up install a mild cam while its out and just run it like that until I can afford some decent heads, maybe thumpers. Any issues that I should think about?
 

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the '85's had the same heads as the '86. The CC's are heart shaped.
 

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BlackFox5.0 said:
the '85's had the same heads as the '86. The CC's are heart shaped.
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Nope, the '85's and '86's have differnet heads.

The '85 motor is very similar to an 87+ motor.

The pistons have the valve reliefs just like the 87+ motors

Also, the E5 heads are basically E7's with a lower compression ratio. This will allow you to run higher timing, more boost, nitrous, etc. WHat ford did basically with the E7 head was take an E5 and lower the combustion chamber size. An E5 head is not as good as an E7 on an N/A application, but it's a lot better than crappy E6's.

I have some E5's lying around somewhere off the motor from my '85 GT
 

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So what kind of compression does that motor have with the E5 head. The pistons are flat tops, not dished like the 87+ pistons. Any idea what the CR is with an E7 head and those pistons?
 

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Thanks for the correction Mike.
 

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The combustion chambers of the E5 is 67.5-70.5cc, the E7 heads are 60.6-63.6. Otherwise they are very similar.
 

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I've got the bone stock motor in my '85, and i recent laid a whoopin on quite a few '87+ GTs.....they're pretty stout motors and they're easily the best carbed 302 of any Fox.
 
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