leveling the stang

blkstangman88 · May 24, 2004

the front of my stang sits 3/4in high then the ass end. ive seen a website of a guy putting a 3/4in cylinder like piece of steal under the caster plates to lower the front 3/4in to level the car, i cant rememeber the site. but is there anything else i would need to do b-4 i do this, would i need to get a alignment?

sixty9boss302 · May 24, 2004

Interesting. Bump

85_SS_302_Coupe · May 24, 2004

Seems to me like that would work, since it would compress the spring down more than it normally would. The reason your back is lower is because of the crappy 'over the wheel' weight that the GTs have, which gives them the characteristic ass drag. You could problably get some drag springs in the back and fix the problem too.

blkstangman88 · May 24, 2004

well i dont want to raise the ass, i like it lowered. would i need a new alignment if i lowered the front? the "ass drag" was for weight transfer right...? what will happin to the ratio with it even?

85_SS_302_Coupe · May 25, 2004

No, the ass drag was just because the stock springs aren't up to the power and weight transfer that the car produces, combined with the weight of the glass hatch and the rest of the car. It's probably a good idea to check the alignment if you lower the front.

jerry beach · May 25, 2004

You state that you have a 2" drop in your sig, how did it get that drop, naturally over time? Have your springs been changed?

Anyway, spacing up the CC plates is prolly a real bad idea, unless you have some aftermarket ones. It will not lower your car either, unless you have coilover springs. In that case you would be moving the upper spring perch up too. All it will really do its give your strut some more bump travel, causing it to bottom out less, really a must for lowered cars. I have been driving my car lowered for 3+ years, its nice to have it back up where it belongs. Ride is much less harsh. JMO

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

i took the 2in drop off my 95 cobra b4 i sold it, there h&r lowering springs. when the springs where swapped i had an alignment already. im thinking of getting a fiberglass hatch and lexon glass, think this would help the ass from looking low?

85_SS_302_Coupe · May 26, 2004

The hatch and lexon would definately help, but may not solve the problem. Were the back springs used when you put'em on? Do you still have stock shocks in the back?

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

the springs were only on the cobra for about 5 months, b4 they were switched to mine. when they where switch i put new horizontal and vertical shocks on the back.(dont know what the other shocks that go horizontal are called) there like 4 other foxs around my town and they all have the "ass drag" so i figure its a fox thing...lol...thanx guys

Ranchero5.0 · May 26, 2004

The newer foxes are heavier and that may explain the front sitting higher on the lighter '88 nose. I'd consider taking the rubber isolater out of the front spring perches and trying that. The spacers you are talking about are for putting 460's in the car and having it look somewhat stock, not nose down with a big carb sticking out the hood.

Jamie

90mustangGT · May 26, 2004

Over wheel drag of the GT? That bumper is the same as the LX, only a different cover which is probally just a few lbs. Anyways a few lbs won't make that much difference. I have the front sitting too high because of all the weight reductions and the battery in the hatch/trunk. I know that most springs are set up to stock weights, so in the near future I'm going all out with coil overs.

10HoleLX · May 26, 2004

I think the reason the rear of the Mustang is so high is beacause the max cargo weight is about 500lbs

The sticker on my right passenger door jamb says "luggage capacity-500lbs"

So if it were level from the factory, the rear end would be too low for proper handling with the stock springs

And yes you do have to realign car after lowering the rear and NOT the front

My car is over 2" inches low all around so passengers in the rear is a NO-GO!
Doesn't matter to me,haven't had passenders in the back in years!

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

ok 10hole lx, i was talking about lowing the front 3/4in cuz the ass sits lower then the front. i do having a 2in lowing kit but the front still sits 3/4in high then the back...learn to read...from what u wrote ur trying to tell me to lower the back and get an alignment on a straight axle.

bigsparky · May 26, 2004

can you order just front lower springs from a company... like eibach??

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

u can find anything on the internet but ive never seen just fronts. but the thing is i already have a 2in drop all around, do they make 2.5?

1991vert · May 26, 2004

you dont have to get an alignment after just lowering the rear... this has no effect on the steering geometry at all. also you cant "align" the rear wheels of RWD vehicles, only FWD. i actually just had my car aligned today after doing springs and c/c plates.

also taking out the spring isolators would be a pretty bad idea. im almost positive that it would make a really annoying sound and probably not lower the car seeing as though the insulator is about what, maybe 0.5cm thick? just lower your car the right way because you're probably going to have to do it down the road. just do it right the first time around

my 02cents

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

"also you cant "align" the rear wheels of RWD vehicles, only FWD"

this isnt true at all.....my 95 cobra was lowered after a year of driving with out having an alignment, the inner tire of both the front and back tires was showing the steel belts and i had to spend $120 for all 4 wheels to be aligned. i dont c how the back had to be aligned cuz it was a straight axle but it did.

10HoleLX · May 26, 2004

OOOHHH
Look at the JC Whitney catalog.
In their suspension section they have something that you might be interested in.
Really give them a try.
They are in the Bushings/springs/drop kit misc section.
Hard to explain what they look like but they fit between the spring coils to compress the spring up to 1 inch.
I had those things in the rear until I finally lowerd the car with BBK springs
It takes 2 of those things per spring

Oh yeah If I'm way off the subject again just IGNORE me and do NOT BE RUDE.

blkstangman88 · May 26, 2004

not rude, just sounded like u were talking about lowering the back when i was asking about the front,

1991vert · May 27, 2004

i JUST got my car aligned today. this is what the shop told me when i asked about a 4 wheel alignment. they said only front wheel drive vehicles can have 4 wheel alignments done and RWD can only have two. i dunno if he was feeding me a line of BS or what, but they're the best place around to get your car aligned...

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